C of Lot 49 or Whether/Whither feminism?

[rich]

don't forget those great T-shirts w/ the head, and the nude woman
i got kicked outta some places for wearing that

On 5/7/09, malignd at aol.com <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
> Leslie Fiedler is the only positive thing that I can think of that
> Freudianism produced.
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> Second or third tier (but an old fave of mine): Larry McMurtry.
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> I can tell ya a story sometime.
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> As you may know, Leslie Fiedler's Love & Death in the American Novel
> famously
> generalized that
> almost NO American writers have created full---round, in Forster's sense
> which
> we have discussed here---
> sympathetic female characters. None, just about ever.
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> Those who have tried, have largely created unsympathetic women.
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> The best American novelists, mostly males (says Leslie), are geniuses by
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> able to
> objectify their narcissism.
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> Go Figger.
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> Refute.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> To: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 4:55 pm
> Subject: Re: C of Lot 49 or Whether/Whither feminism?
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> Second or third tier (but an old fave of mine): Larry McMurtry.
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> I can tell ya a story sometime.
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> As you may know, Leslie Fiedler's Love & Death in the American Novel
> famously
> generalized that
> almost NO American writers have created full---round, in Forster's sense
> which
> we have discussed here---
> sympathetic female characters. None, just about ever.
>
> Those who have tried, have largely created unsympathetic women.
>
> The best American novelists, mostly males (says Leslie), are geniuses by
> being
> able to
> objectify their narcissism.
>
> Go Figger.
>
> Refute.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From:20rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:39:25 PM
> Subject: Re: C of Lot 49 or Whether/Whither feminism?
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> Pynchon had no feel for this, didn't know how to portray female
> friendship and solidarity.
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> can anyone name a male author who has w/o the lesbian overtones? (plz
> don't mention Tom Robbins)
> or vice-versa (i'd guess women would write better gay men
> characters--I know a few who love gay porn ;)
> Pat Barker did a fair enough job in the WWI books which I would also
> classify as feminist
> rich
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