CoL49 (3) Music of the future [PC 34, PF 48]

[rich]

Yes to Neu?

On 5/18/09, Joe Allonby <joeallonby at gmail.com> wrote:
> No to Yes.
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> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Robin Landseadel
> <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for proving my point. Karlheintz Stockhausen had/has an outsized
>> effect on popular music, an influence that far exceeds the number of
>> concerts he's performed or records he's sold. I think it might be the
>> concept of this sort of music making or new timbers available through
>> these
>> compositional methods more than the compositions themselves, but the
>> sounds
>> Stockhausen produced was the nearest thing to rocket science during the
>> heyday of the space program, much like Jimi Hendrix.
>>
>> Yes to Miles, Yes to Kraftwerk, Yes to the Captain, Yes to Metal Machine
>> Music, Yes to Aphex Twin, Yes to the first uses of pure noise in musical
>> composition. Stockhausen's effect on music was like a supernova, a burst
>> of
>> genius, an effect on other people's music, an influence greater than the
>> music itself.
>>
>> On May 18, 2009, at 11:34 AM, János Székely wrote:
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>>> Well, for that matter, Czukay was Stockhausen's student.
>>>
>>> Janos
>>>
>>> 2009/5/18 Henry Musikar <scuffling at gmail.com>:
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>>>> Love Stockhausen, particularly his Magnus Opus, Hymnen (which I play on
>>>> KCUF), but he was a greater influence on the Beatles and Zappa than on
>>>> Krautrock.  Sure, the Krauts used electronic sounds, but not noise.
>>>>
>>>> Henry Mu
>>>> Sr. IT Consultant
>>>> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20/
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of rich
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:04 PM
>>>> To: János Székely
>>>> Cc: Robin Landseadel; pynchon-l at waste.org
>>>> Subject: Re: CoL49 (3) Music of the future [PC 34, PF 48]
>>>>
>>>> it was in the water--Miles Davis at this time was also an acolyte of
>>>> sorts of Stockhausen as well--would we have Get Up with It (music
>>>> recorded 70-74), or On the Corner w/o that connection?
>>>>
>>>> rich
>>>>
>>>> On 5/18/09, János Székely <miksaapja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When it comes to Stockhausen's influence, don't forget about early 70s
>>>>> Krautrock produced in Cologne studios (Can, Kraftwerk, etc.) and the
>>>>> electronic waves (no pun) that followed. OBA was being prophetic
>>>>> again. Holger Czukay, at least, looks like the ideal reader of COL 49.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janos
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