CoL49 (3) Music of the future [PC 34, PF 48]
Joe Allonby
joeallonby at gmail.com
Mon May 18 15:16:50 CDT 2009
No to Yes.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Robin Landseadel
<robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
> Thanks for proving my point. Karlheintz Stockhausen had/has an outsized
> effect on popular music, an influence that far exceeds the number of
> concerts he's performed or records he's sold. I think it might be the
> concept of this sort of music making or new timbers available through these
> compositional methods more than the compositions themselves, but the sounds
> Stockhausen produced was the nearest thing to rocket science during the
> heyday of the space program, much like Jimi Hendrix.
>
> Yes to Miles, Yes to Kraftwerk, Yes to the Captain, Yes to Metal Machine
> Music, Yes to Aphex Twin, Yes to the first uses of pure noise in musical
> composition. Stockhausen's effect on music was like a supernova, a burst of
> genius, an effect on other people's music, an influence greater than the
> music itself.
>
> On May 18, 2009, at 11:34 AM, János Székely wrote:
>
>> Well, for that matter, Czukay was Stockhausen's student.
>>
>> Janos
>>
>> 2009/5/18 Henry Musikar <scuffling at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Love Stockhausen, particularly his Magnus Opus, Hymnen (which I play on
>>> KCUF), but he was a greater influence on the Beatles and Zappa than on
>>> Krautrock. Sure, the Krauts used electronic sounds, but not noise.
>>>
>>> Henry Mu
>>> Sr. IT Consultant
>>> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20/
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of rich
>>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:04 PM
>>> To: János Székely
>>> Cc: Robin Landseadel; pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Subject: Re: CoL49 (3) Music of the future [PC 34, PF 48]
>>>
>>> it was in the water--Miles Davis at this time was also an acolyte of
>>> sorts of Stockhausen as well--would we have Get Up with It (music
>>> recorded 70-74), or On the Corner w/o that connection?
>>>
>>> rich
>>>
>>> On 5/18/09, János Székely <miksaapja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to Stockhausen's influence, don't forget about early 70s
>>>> Krautrock produced in Cologne studios (Can, Kraftwerk, etc.) and the
>>>> electronic waves (no pun) that followed. OBA was being prophetic
>>>> again. Holger Czukay, at least, looks like the ideal reader of COL 49.
>>>>
>>>> Janos
>>>
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