P.'s GR again
Mark Kohut
markekohut at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 9 19:44:12 CST 2009
Did not want to add specific questions of or disagreements with particular
annotations in Weisenburger as I reread GR which seemed to me to be too
hard to follow if we are not reading GR as a group, but Robin, generous wide-ranging, very democratic,--it seems---said it ought to go to the list so
now it has.
It concerns Weisenburger's note to the phrase Bicycle Rider in the Sky on page 501 or 509 in the Penguin paper editions.
It seems, after Robin's suggestion, that there IS a Rider in the Sky card in the standard @Bicycle playing card set from the early Edwardian period.
(In GRm P writes of a fatal "Edwardian silhouette".
The link is below.
Weisenburger may have missed this 'cause a guy named Rider did a famous Tarot set, but in the text of GR, P MOVES from this image TO the Tarot deck, in his grammar differentiating two decks.
For what it may be worth.
--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Offlist but P.'s GR again
> To: "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 5:45 PM
> I also think that this:
>
> A. Should have gone to the list,
> B. Also points to the Bicycle "Joker" card—which
> corresponds to the fool,
> C. is evocative and imaginative rather than based in
> 'reality.'
>
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>
> > HERE i think is that Bicycle Rider in the Sky image
> allusion........yes, Robin, I think you were right....it
> comes from an early @Bicycle card design, first.
> >
> > http://www.bicyclecards.com/products/bicycle-limited-edition-series/4.php?page_id=30
> >
> >
> > Another note to Weisenburger, led astray perhaps by
> the fact that a William Rider did an early pack of Tarot
> cards......TRP, being TRP layers into the Tarot but the
> image starts as an "Edwardian Silhouette"......
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> >> Subject: Re: Offlist but P.'s GR again
> >> To: "Mark Kohut" <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> >> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 4:40 PM
> >> On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Mark
> >> Kohut wrote:
> >>
> >>> Viking edition p, 501....Bicycle Rider in the
> >> Sky......cites three Tarot edtion card
> >> possibilities...............
> >>>
> >>> But later in the same paragraph.... we read
> "in the
> >> Tarot he is known as The Fool".....reading to me
> as if the
> >> description above is not from a Tarot deck, but, I
> might
> >> suggest, is some still undiscovered Edwardian
> >> silhouette"....????
> >>>
> >>> Also, this reading led me to read "but around
> here the
> >> call him Slick" as a little joke on the Fool who
> is a Zero
> >> and fits anywhere......slick-like, eh?
> >>
> >> He's referring to the backside of the regular deck
> of
> >> playing cards. Tarot cards are an expanded deck of
> regular
> >> playing cards. Not so sure about the rest.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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