IVIV (13) scene one question

Robin Landseadel robinlandseadel at comcast.net
Thu Nov 5 16:29:00 CST 2009


On Nov 5, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Peter Petto wrote:

> I agree. I also feel a lot more empathy between Doc and Bigfoot.
>
> I imagine each could imagine themselves in the other's shoes. I'm  
> not sure as I would go quite as far as saying that each could  
> imagine their life having gone along the other's path.

I've mentioned this before—the relation between Doc 'n Bigfoot is more  
like The Dude and Walter Sobchak. On a certain level they can maintain  
social relations, on another they're spiritual antipodes.

> On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:08 PM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> I think one difference is that Zoyd would be happy never to see  
>> Hector again, whereas Doc seems to consider Bigfoot a potential  
>> source of info -- at least worth looking in on now and then.  The  
>> difference is between the straightforward paranoia of a good- 
>> hearted idealist versus the more cynical, utilitarian worldview of  
>> someone whose values have been compromised.
>>
>> Laura

Another difference is that Doc 'n Bigfoot fulfill noir conventions,  
Raymond Chandler's in particular. From the all-knowing, all-seeing eye  
of the Wikipedia, from which all knowledge flows:

	In a letter to D. J. Ibberson, written 19 April 1951, Chandler
	noted among other things that Marlowe is 38 years old and was
	born in Santa Rosa, California. He had a couple of years at
	college and some experience as an investigator for an
	insurance company and the district attorney's office of Los
	Angeles County; he was fired from the D.A.'s office for
	insubordination (or, as Marlowe put it, "talking back"). The D.A.'s
	chief investigator, Bernie Ohls, is a friend and former colleague,
	and a source of information for Marlowe within law
	enforcement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Marlowe

Information & irritation—it should be noted that their relation is as  
uneasy as Doc & Bigfoot's. Of course, by the time we're in the Los  
Angeles the Watts riots and Manson murders have left L.A.'s police  
department in an even more fascist and fractured state than it was  
during the era of "Bay City" and "L.A. Confidential."





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