IVIV (13) scene one question

rich richard.romeo at gmail.com
Fri Nov 6 15:12:31 CST 2009


I agree and its not like I don't understand why--in a stricter sense,
Puck is knocked out and handcuffed when Doc gives him an apparent
OD--even if you're doing it to the most evil person on earth, it's
still technically murder

I can't imagine another mainly sympathetic Pynchon character ever
doing something like this but as has been noted Pynchon is working in
another vein (insert pun here)

Rich

On 11/6/09, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd not call Doc's killing of Puck murder.  When one is trying to
> escape from someone who's about to kill you and from the person who
> ordered your killing, just about anything is fair.
>
>> one thing that really differentiates Doc from Zoyd is that Doc killed
>> somebody--Puck is murdered by Doc; at least w/ Adrian one could point
>> to self-defense but thinking legally here it does beg the question
>> about Doc's past--we're given the goofy, at times genial, laid back
>> hipster but there's the skip tracer past, the aforementioned run ins
>> w/ Puck and Adrian, etc.
>> I'm not sure there are answers to these questions.
>> In noir, you know the PI's are badasses, who've done some shitty
>> things but their behavior doesn't come across as jarring as it does
>> with Doc--guess we are programmed not to think of Pynchon's
>> protagonists this way--if not total good guys, at least folks you can
>> root for in some way--Slothrop, DL, Dixon, Lew, etc.
>



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