Vegas, list trouble etc.
grladams at teleport.com
grladams at teleport.com
Sun Nov 15 03:24:04 CST 2009
the question is, is anyone going to Vegas mid March?
Jill
Original Message:
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From: Joseph Tracy brook7 at sover.net
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:18:11 -0500
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Vegas, list trouble etc.
Not getting all the emails again. My last weird post on Rigs again
again didn't show up in the box and neither diid Clement Levy's
interesting post on Las Vegas. I found his in the p-list website
archive.
The question is why take the action in IV to Vegas? and what happens
in Vegas and how is it being Las Vegas important?
What happens in Vegas in IV?
Puck Beaverton is in Vegas. Why? To gamble where he is not welcome
with the magic fingered Einer, OK. zatit? Hide from police/Doc ? Is
he on an errand for A Prussia? Is that why Riggs has a gun?
FBI types are there.
Riggs is there in zome town being built in desert. Why build it
there? If deserts invite utopian dreams , is that what Vegas is?
MW has investments there with idea of drive-in gambling, kinda like
fast food cash flow reversal.
Kismet is taking bets on MW's reappearance.
Mickey is being held in Kismet, or at any rate appears in FBI custody
there.
hints of mormon mob, HH.
What is Vegas about?
The novel Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas accounts for two trips to
Las Vegas, Nevada, that Hunter S. Thompson and attorney Oscar Zeta
Acosta took in March and April 1971. The first trip spawned from an
exposé Thompson was writing for Rolling Stone magazine about the
Mexican-American television journalist Ruben Salazar, whom officers
of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department had shot and killed
with a tear gas grenade fired at close range during the National
Chicano Moratorium March against the Vietnam War in 1970. Thompson
was using Acosta a prominent Mexican-American political activist
and attorney as a central source for the story, and the two found
it difficult for a brown-skinned Mexican to talk openly with a white
reporter in the racially tense atmosphere of Los Angeles, California.
The two needed a more comfortable place to discuss the story and
decided to take advantage of a Sports Illustrated magazine offer to
write photograph captions for the annual Mint 400 desert race being
held in Las Vegas. ( the novel has little to do with these reasons
for going to Las Vegas, but is more about the descent of the 60's
revolution into drugs, self absorbtion and irrelevance)
The Mob, Gambling, Prostitution( another consistent theme in IV),
instant marriage, entertainment, Howard Hughes, money, weird showy
architecture, neon, water issues (Glen Canyon), proximity to LA,
musical demise of Elvis.
To my thinking Vegas relates to 2 or 3 linked ideas that are
important to the novel. The first is the glitzy sordid appeal of an
entire city that sells vice as glamour, this relates to the theme of
inherent vice. The 2nd is the idea of an outpost of lawlessness
where criminality, government and capitalism are living in open co-
dependence. It seems like that is a fairly good summary definition
of "them" that emerges throughout TRP's fiction. Also throughout P's
fiction one finds that to investigate any system or system related
event, deed or misdeed is to run into this powerful nexus( system
meaning any organized network from Golden Dawn to Pinkertons to
various players in Europes great game, to working as a surveyor).
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