CH 15 the hard on
Joseph Tracy
brook7 at sover.net
Sat Nov 21 20:17:09 CST 2009
Nice to have a couple extra days, since I have been busy turning my
large crop of Cabbage into enough sauerkraut supply Fenway Park for a
day, and also finishing up a private commission. Last night I reread
up to halfway through 18 as all that was getting dim in my
shortening midterm memory, or my middling short term memory. But
hey, we pile up the memories and then what ? When do we start using
them to make a few changes around here? Here meaning this beautiful
planet which once teamed with life and now teams with collected and
discarded piles of human "wealth" and memorabilia?.
Coming back to Doc and Shasta, and in some sense, all love/sex/
marriage relationships of IV which taken in total offer a pretty
broad look at the whole relationship spectrum for such a short book,
I feel that Pynchon is particularly exploring the role of fiction/
fantasy in these relationships and working hard to squeeze insight
out of that exploration. The particular fictions touched on have to
do with 1)pornography and prostitution 2) old lady, old man semi
committed arrangements 3) fantasy of various kinds 4) marriage from
ownership to economic arrangement to soul mates. Course it all
mixes and overlaps, and while relationships are all to some degree
fictions we tell ourselves, they also become the daily stuff of life.
I see Pynchon making a strong connection between pornography, and
violence/exploitation. He is using this in a way that borders on or
engages in exploitation and pornography on his part, but also has
powerful elements of descriptive honesty. (And how accurate can you
be about sex without being prurient and exploitiive.?). Examples of
porn to violence: Mickey and his ties/ women, The pornographer who is
AP's first job as a hit man, Doc's sexual fantasies about Manson and
his acolytes, the broader cultural fantasies about Manson, Trillium's
hardcore relationship with Puck leading to violence, Shasta's
willingness to cater to fantasies leading to abduction, Doc Mickey
and Sloane's use of Luz and her fantasy of ascent through catering to
hardcore sex, Blatnoyd and Japonica Fenway . So while it seems at
first glance the topic is being treated lightly and with humor and
catering to male fantasy , it is hard not to see a a very dark
undertone to the shenanigans.
There is also a pornographic element to the recruitment of agents,
criminals, hired killers and cops. The promise of indulging in a
secret life outside the boundaries of moral limits.
On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Dave Monroe wrote:
> Do keep in mind, everybody, that, figuring we'd lose a day or two to
> the holiday (and of course the Internet IS American territory,
> right?), I didn't schedule a new chapter 'til the week AFTER, so,
> Joseph, sorry, negelected to note, take yr time, and everybody else,
> take the opportunity to catch up--which is what I'm gonna hafta
> do--reflect, whatever. Thanks!
>
> Of course, I don't think anybody'd mind if we hit the ground running
> on the next chapter after the holiday, either. Or waited 'til after
> the weekend. Either/or. Both/and. Thanks again!
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dave Monroe
> <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Ch. 15, pp. 256-274 -- 11/16 - 11/25/09 -- Joseph T.
>>> Thanksgiving break -- 11/26 - 11/29
>>> Ch. 16, pp. 275-295 -- 11/30 - 12/06/09 -- Mark K.
>>> Ch. 17, pp. 296-314 -- 12/07 - 12/13/09 -- Rich R.
>>> Ch. 18, pp. 315-342 -- 12/14 - 12/23/09 -- Rich R.
>>> Christmas + New Year's Break -- 12/24/09 - 1/03/10
>>> Ch. 19, pp. 343-350 -- 1/04/10 - 1/10/10 -- Bekah
>>> Ch. 20, pp. 351-363 -- 1/11/10 - 1/17/10 -- Paul N.
>>> Ch. 21, pp. 364-369 -- 1/19/10 - ... --Paul N.
>>> Outro ...
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