Re: IVIV (15) 269/274—7000 Romaine revisited

[Mark Kohut]

"The man of the past is alive in us today to a degree undreamt of before the war, and in the last analysis what is the fate of great nations but a summation of the psychic changes in the individuals?."   C Jung

could be a lame epigram for GR............

--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: IVIV (15) 269/274—7000 Romaine revisited
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 10:45 PM
> On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Joseph
> Tracy wrote:
> 
> > OK Hughes was clearly in on some heavy shit and it
> looks like that or something else took its toll on him, and
> I think you are onto a key political component and are right
> to push him forward. For me it ties everything together in a
> way that I was looking for with the political aspect. But
> Pynchon is doing more than identifying a particular
> criminal; he is identifying an archetype or mythic hero of a
> major American psychopathology and looking at many elements
> of that  archetype and pathology.
> 
> Agreed. Think of Hughes' ties to Film Noir—Scarface being
> a key example and classic archetype.
> 
> > I have just started reading Jung's The Archetypes and
> the Collective Unconscious and came to this passage that I
> think applies to what I am saying. He is speaking about the
> revival of primitive patterns of collective myth manifest in
> Fascism.
> 
> And Pynchon displays interests in these subjects that I can
> see in Vineland and Against the Day. It's far too long since
> I've read Gravity's Rainbow and I know there must be a lot
> in that  book that's been subtly re-configured by the
> books that followed.
> 
> >     "The man of the past is alive in us
> today to a degree undreamt of before the war, and in the
> last analysis what is the fate of great nations but a
> summation of the psychic changes in the
> individuals?."   C Jung
> 
> "Historians write opinions on his fingernails."
> 
> 
> 
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