rubrics (I like that word), wrecking crews and hugfests

[Ray Easton]

Carvill, John wrote:
> I know you probably aren't malignd, but you sure sound like him.
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> I was responding to M Bailey's comment, which I quoted. 'Duality' was a word I used to describe what he was talking about. I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I (and he) meant.
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The post was not intended as a swipe at you, John.


Let me try again to make my point by going back to the post you quoted:


<< have difficulty understanding how Pynchon could be writing works
informed by occultism while at the same time satirizing them as TWITS,
but willing to consider the possibility... >>



If you are satirizing occultism, for example, *of course* your work is 
informed by the occult.  How could it possibly be otherwise?  The 
presence of occultism in a satire of the occult does not mean the author 
takes occultism seriously. 


Ray


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On Behalf Of Ray Easton
> Sent: 25 November 2009 13:20
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: Re: rubrics (I like that word), wrecking crews and hugfests
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> Carvill, John wrote:
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>> << have difficulty understanding how Pynchon could be writing works
>> informed by occultism while at the same time satirizing them as TWITS,
>> but willing to consider the possibility... >>
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>> I've often wondered how seriously Pynchon takes that sort of thing. Tarot in GR, ferrinstance. But writing occult-informed/inflected works, and satirising occultism, well, it's that sort of duality that makes Pynchon Pynchon.  
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> What duality? 
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> The presence of 'X' within a satire of 'X' is not itself evidence of 
> duality.  How would one go about satirizing 'X' without in the process 
> informing one's work with 'X'?
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> Replace the 'X' in the above with "occult", with "conspiracy theory", or 
> with whichever is your own personal favorite of Pynchon's hobby-horses.
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> Ray
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