IVIV (8): Downstairs Eddie

[rich]

hey alice (kramden)

based on this I'd say IV is the hippie equivalent of the Carol Burnett
Show. She said her parodies were parodies of characters and not the
real actors who  played them. (Mildred Pierce--not Joan Crawford,
e.g.)
and she did it well

rich

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, alice wellintown
<alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> I see little advantage to reading P's parents as traditional realist
> characters. Larry's parents meet in 1934. Why 34? The year is famous
> for a bunch of events including some big ones in Germany and Italy,
> but also in the USA where the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression are
> razing castles made of sand. Some major Gangsters get hit: Bonnie &
> Clyde are killed in May of 1934, Joh Dillinger in July 1934, Baby Face
> Nelson in November.  SO what? What have Bonnie & Clyde to do with
> Larry's parents? Like their son they imitate celebrity. First Bonnie &
> Clyde, then a series of other couples. Like Larry, like Zoyd, like all
> P's Film/TV/Reel-Real Life characters, and this has been his method of
> characterization since V., Larry's parents imitate celebrity
> characters. Hecor can zap into Clint Eastwood Dirty Harry and back
> into Hector Tube Addict then back to some other TV-detective. Now,
> they are parodic figures, Now they are satirized for their copy-cat
> lives and for modeling TV characters. They zap into sentimental
> sit-com channels and appear to be normal, that is, if we take "Jewish"
> Sit-Com Family as anything appraoching normal--mostly neorotic,
> infantile, loud, rarely funny. All this, of course, defuses Brock
> Vond, Reagan, the CIA. Far more insidious than a Rocket, this is no
> CIA tool of torture or Big Brother in your living room. It's Gnostic
> Control and it defines what is REAL.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Michael Bailey
>> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why would he bring Leo and Elmina in to just satirize them?
>>
>> Are tehse the most, if not the only, normal, well-adjusted, whatever,
>> parents in Pynchonhood?  After that, there's Zoyd Wheeler (well, and
>> Chas. Mason) ...
>>
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