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Bekah
bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Oct 10 16:39:32 CDT 2009
I think Coy's reality will come up again in Chapter 10. He may be a
ghost in this venue (chapter 9) but he's right at home later (or
earlier).
Re Spector and Manson - from
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jul/28/phil-spector-charles-manson
"Before his slaughter spree, Manson tried to launch a music career by
hanging out with Doris Day's record-producer son, Terry Melcher, and
Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys. The Beach Boys ended up recording two
Manson songs -- one eerily titled "Cease To Exist," which the group
changed to "Never Learn To Love." Melcher enraged Manson by severing
ties and the maniac sent his gang to kill Melcher, whose former
address was where Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate were living. The
maniacs ended up killing Tate and four others on Aug. 9, 1969.
Manson's old self-recorded songs have ended up on albums complied by
collectors of the macabre and he's even taped new ones in prison.
Spector's producing credits include the hits "Be My Baby," "Da Doo Ron
Ron" and "Unchained Melody," and The Beatles' "Let It Be" album.
"I think Manson wants to glean some musical advice from Phil, who was
a '60s music god with his 'Wall of Sound,' " Spector publicist Hal
Lifson told us. "But Phil's like, 'I used to pick up the phone and it
was John Lennon or Celine Dion orTina Turner, and now Charles Manson
is trying to get a hold of me!' "
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Bekah
On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Robin Landseadel wrote:
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Bekah wrote:
>
>> So you are suggesting (or not) that Coy is a "ghost musician" for
>> the Boards and actually plays with them as an associate, like the
>> Wrecking Crew? Just wondering.
>>
>> Bekah
>
> Yes, that's one suggestion.
>
> Coy , like members of the "Wrecking Crew," is a musician from some
> higher or more complex musical discipline then one usually finds
> involved in "Surf Music." If you have any musical sense—say maybe
> you're familiar with Beethoven and Rossini— you realize that one sax
> player really sticks out in the surf music scene on account of
> actually soloing as opposed to filling in with two-note fills.
>
> Listen to the bulk of big-label top forty from L.A., 1964/1970 and
> you're hearing the Wrecking Crew.
>
> I'm also playing the "6 degrees of separation" game with Terry
> Melcher, Dennis Wilson, Phil Spector and Charles Manson, tying some
> threads together I've seen in other books of Pynchon's.
>
> I've long had a sense that the Paranoids best matched the Byrds. All
> the talk about surf music in Vineland and Inherent Vice obviously
> points to the Beach Boys. The Boards are a fictional band, as are
> the Paranoids, but they both have recognizable features from well-
> known and analogous bands of the same times and places.
>
> If you have any musical sense—say maybe you're familiar with Jan &
> Dean and Dick Dale— you realize that one musician really sticks out
> in the surf music scene on account of actually composing as opposed
> to filling in ready-made musical structures like the twelve-bar blues:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfH_J4MAUQ
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcUeSDMll5s
>
> Though the Beach Boys LP "Surf's Up" was issued in 1971, the Boards
> circa 1970 have issues and virtues analogous to the Beach Boys of
> 1970. And "Surf's Up" has so very much to do with "Inherent Vice."
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xrZPBdYGVE&feature=related
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