IVIV parody?

[Henry Musikar]

I didn't, but most people thought Manson was a hippie. Did he describe
himself as one?  Would that matter in any significant way?  Does he fit the
dictionary definition, and do we care about dictionary definition, as they
are written by THEM?

Henry Mu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Woollams

Isn't part of the inherent vice the melting of these social roles? Doc plays
both "good guy" and "bad guy" because he's a human being. I think part of IV
is Pynchon's toying with our perspectives. We no longer know who is good or
bad, the world isn't black and white. Instead everything has blended
together and we're left in a stoner state of confusion. Are we high? No,
we're just over-stimulated. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Henry Mu

If Doc is any less than wholly genuine, it begs the question "who is?"
Doc's internal dialogue/narration is as pure hippy/stoner as The Dude's, and
don't forget Lebowski's willingness to do a little work for the man.
Slothrop was in the Army, for gooness sake, and M&D were cutting up the
earth itself for aristocrats.  That Doc is not a crazed idealist only makes
him more real/genuine and less of a symbol for some ideal that Pynchon has
repeatedly illustrated as (usually)  delusional and unrealistic, and one
extremity of which was Charles Manson, the most famous hippie ideologue of
all.

Henry Mu