IVIV (12): 195-197

[Mark Kohut]

No, I do not support the Boards ripping off Denis' pics...but pics are bad karma almost always I would still argue even with sympathetic Merle.......
I will say that TRP has the Boards hunting for pictures for a reason or he would not have put it in the story [true by definition, I know, but still why?]...Denis is not (quite) Doc; he takes pictures;what does that mean about him? 

yes, Doc gets a clue to the bad guys from a documentary and from a computer but sometimes they are there as a cigar is sometimes a cigar.....
And, although Doc is a good guy and brings a family together, what are the coming P.I.'s like?...

I might argue that this is part of why the end of the book is the end it is...Doc has to use these things.....they are ubiquitous........

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> From: kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: IVIV (12): 195-197
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 3:23 PM
> Photos are bad in the wrong
> hands.  One of TRP's more sympathetic characters, Merle
> in ATD, was a photographer, after all.  The zombie-like
> Boards may be in cahoots with the Fang, or they may just be
> looking for their stolen souls, but we-the-readers surely
> don't support their ripping off Denis' pictures. 
> Spike's footage of the Chick Planet kidnapping is another
> case in point.  Spike's documentary footage supplies
> Doc with info about the bad guys, as does Fritz and Sparky's
> computer hacking.  Now if the cops were doing it ...
> 
> Laura
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Oct 30, 2009 3:12 PM
> >To: kelber at mindspring.com
> >Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >Subject: Re: IVIV (12): 195-197
> >
> >A--and, I just want to add another surface ob based on
> TRPs bag of tropes
> >and vision-carriers:  The Boards were hunting for
> photos............
> >
> >photos are not good things in Pynchon....
> >
> >--- On Fri, 10/30/09, kelber at mindspring.com
> <kelber at mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: kelber at mindspring.com
> <kelber at mindspring.com>
> >> Subject: IVIV (12): 195-197
> >> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 12:43 PM
> >> p. 195:
> >> 
> >> "the CII computer up in Sacramento" 
> >> 
> >> What's CII?
> >> 
> >> Council of International Investigators?
> >> 
> >> http://www.cii2.org/index.shtml
> >> 
> >> or something to do with this (see posting by PHM
> re: CII
> >> number)?
> >> 
> >> http://www.calccw.com/Forums/general-ccw-discussion/3560-ca-ccw-permit.html
> >> 
> >> Sparky: a nickname for an electrician.  Also,
> the
> >> character Radar O'Reilly was always communicating
> with in
> >> M*A*S*H.
> >> 
> >> p.196:  Denis is freaked because members of The
> Boards
> >> have broken into his house, ostensibly looking for
> the
> >> photos he took at their house.
> >> 
> >> " ... they are supposed to be freaks, a freak
> surfadelic
> >> band, that's their public image, and freaks don't
> rip off
> >> other freaks, and most of all if they take your
> food, freaks
> >> share it.  Didn't you see that movie?  There's
> >> this actual 'Code of the Freaks' --"
> >> 
> >> Cute joke about Freaks (1932), which I've always
> been too
> >> squeamish to watch.  But Denis' comment strikes
> me as
> >> one of the most poignant moments in the book. 
> Denis'
> >> indignation captures the outright sadness people
> felt when
> >> they realized the vague, half-baked promises of
> the '60s
> >> weren’t gonna pan out.  Manson's shadow looms
> >> again  -- he looked and acted like a freak, like
> "one
> >> of us" (to quote the movie), but turned out to be
> the exact
> >> opposite -- Free Hate, not Free Love. The Boards
> act like
> >> zombies and pigs instead of surfer dudes.  If
> we're
> >> assuming them to be, in part, an analog of the
> Beach Boys,
> >> there's another whiff of Manson, since one or more
> of the
> >> Beach Boys rubbed shoulders with Manson.  Denis
> has
> >> every right to be upset.
> >> 
> >> General Tso's Broccoli:  the Hippie version of
> General
> >> Tso's Chicken.  One more case where TRP edges
> toward
> >> anachronism.  Szechuan cuisine was around in the
> early
> >> '70s, but Cantonese cuisine (with its Chow Mein
> and Chop
> >> Suey designed for bland American tastes) was
> dominant. 
> >>   General Tso's was marketed in Szechuan
> restaurants,
> >> but it was another "Chinese" dish, designed for
> American
> >> tastes.  It's hard to believe that "General
> Tso's"
> >> anything would have entered the general
> parlance.  Not
> >> impossible, but a stretch.
> >> 
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Tso's_Chicken
> >> 
> >> LK
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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