Remedios varo

[kelber at mindspring.com]

No specifics given -- only in Mexico City.  I'm jealous!

Laura

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Kipen <kipend at arts.gov>
>Sent: Sep 10, 2009 3:16 PM
>To: 
>Cc: "'pynchon-l at waste.org'" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Subject: Remedios varo
>
>Hello from the "Remedios varo en la literatura" exhibit at the museo de arte moderno in mexico city, up through december! I'm buying varo postcards, a poster, a mousepad, a cigarette case -- and I don't even smoke! Can somebody remind me of where trp and/or oedipa saw varo's work?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org <owner-pynchon-l at waste.org>
>To: John Carvill <johncarvill at gmail.com>
>Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Sent: Thu Sep 10 14:43:30 2009
>Subject: Re: Sick Heil
>
>On 9/10/09, John Carvill <johncarvill at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm just saying, regaring this story about idiotic behaviour among
>> *football fans*, lets keep it in proportion. The Sun is a
>> hyper-sensationilist tabloid rag, a thoroughly unpleasant and in fact
>> downright evil presence in British society, owned by Rupert Murdoch.
>> For them to point fingers is pretty rich.
>_________
>yes, that thought crossed my mind as well
>
>>
>>> >
>> a) Football fans in general can be prone to behaviours we would not
>> find laudable
>______
>ever read Among the Thugs about soccer hooligans in Britain? scary shit
>
>> b) The context in which this particular strain of fascist-friendly
>> insanity arose is complex
>_________
>I wonder if some of it has to do with at some level by those on the
>right (or generally) in feeling the crimes of Nazism overshadowing the
>crimes of Stalin to such an extent that there is a feeling of
>comraderie or nostalgia for as u call it "fascist friendly" elements
>in places like Croatia--in the Balkans you have the added complexity
>of the recent war with Serbia (who are perceived as perpetrating more
>acts of brutality/war crimes at least in the west-- tho Croatia had
>done similar if not on the scale of Serbia's--the massacre at
>Srebencia and the siege of Sarajevo are remembered more)
>So, the references to the Ustashe could be seen not only as a bulwark
>against communism and a resurgent Russia but also against the Serbs
>(supported by the Kremlin) ,(and at one point the state of Yugoslavia,
>too.) and finally, I think there is an anti-western element mixed in,
>particularly with Europe and NATO and the increasing demands for the
>capture of war criminals, who are believed to be patriots by the
>locals. so there's nationalism.
>In any event, it is rather sad to see pretty girls wearing the symbols
>of an organization that during the war committed such horrifying acts
>(which the Serbs would later  use as justification for its brutality
>in the 1990s)
>
>> We had a 'discussion' on this list a while back, which resulted in me
>> taking my ball and going home for a while. What was demonstrated was a
>> well-nigh universal level of utter ignorance with regard to the recent
>> politics and conflicts in the Balkans. As someone with an interest in
>> that area, I found it very sad. I also got really pissed off. SO I'm
>> not wanting to open up that whole can of worms again. I'm just
>> cautioning against people here, on this list, getting themselves
>> worked up about a subject they're not too clued-up on.
>________
>u should watch Richard Gere in The Hunting Party (seeking out a
>Karadzic-type character) for a sense of how Hollywood/US views events
>in the Balkans--its really awful, and unintentionally funny
>considering in part, the reality where the real Karadzic was "hiding"
>in Belgrade.
>
>rich
>