Sick Heil

[John Carvill]

Hi Rich

> ever read Among the Thugs about soccer hooligans in Britain? scary shit

Not read that one, no. Read a few things. No need to read really, they
are all around me! I actually know some people on the fringes of
football 'firms' so I know how those things go. Not my scene at all.

>> b) The context in which this particular strain of fascist-friendly
>> insanity arose is complex
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> [snip - cutting some of your post to save space...]
> -in the Balkans you have the added complexity
> of the recent war with Serbia

Yes, that is a big factor.

> (who are perceived as perpetrating more
> acts of brutality/war crimes at least in the west-

Perception is correct in this case.

>- tho Croatia had
> done similar if not on the scale of Serbia's--the massacre at
> Srebencia and the siege of Sarajevo are remembered more)

They are remembered more because they were so horrible. There were
many many other atrocities. The Croats did not always behave
honourably during the conflict, and their president was despicable,
there is a lot of shame there. But they were nowhere near as much to
blame as teh Serbs. The Serbs continue to live in a curious state,
combining denial with open celebration of what they did, worshipping
war criminals and gearing up for more whenever they get the chance. It
could happen again, definitely. That some on 'the Left' in the West
take the Serbian side is one of the biggest follies since Stalin.

> So, the references to the Ustashe could be seen not only as a bulwark
> against communism and a resurgent Russia but also against the Serbs

Again, yes, that is part of it. Madness, but it's possible to
understand why it's happened.

> (supported by the Kremlin) ,(and at one point the state of Yugoslavia,
> too.) and finally, I think there is an anti-western element mixed in,
> particularly with Europe and NATO and the increasing demands for the
> capture of war criminals, who are believed to be patriots by the
> locals. so there's nationalism.

Yes. The West stood by while the Serbs committed genocide.

> ________
> u should watch Richard Gere in The Hunting Party (seeking out a
> Karadzic-type character) for a sense of how Hollywood/US views events
> in the Balkans--its really awful, and unintentionally funny
> considering in part, the reality where the real Karadzic was "hiding"
> in Belgrade.
>

I've seen it. Incredibly bad, unwatchable, literally incredible.