V-2nd C4 Allografts
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Tue Aug 3 15:16:06 CDT 2010
Not a small one of the few things that I'm assuming you think Freud
got more or less right.
I don't really know much about Zizek, but that he's a Lacanian. And
I'm only slighty schooled (too strong a verb for my case) in Lacan.
But Freud is also a major source for Lacan. So, come on, Freud
shouldn't be so harshly dismissed.
David Morris
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
> Zizek on the "love instinct", which, according to Fraud is complementary to the "death instinct":
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7qdowoemo
>
>> See Freud, Beyond the Pleasure Principle (Norton, 1959, 1961):
>>
>> "Let us suppose, then, that all the organic instincts are
>> conservative, are acquired historically and tend towards the
>> restoration of an earlier state of things.... [I]t must be an old
>> state of things, an initial state from which the living entity has at
>> one time or other departed and to which it is striving to return by
>> the circuitous paths along which its development leads. If we are to
>> take it as a truth that knows no exception that everything living dies
>> for internal reasons--becomes inorganic once again--then we shall be
>> compelled to say that 'the aim of all life is death' and looking
>> backwards, that 'inanimate things existed before living ones'" (45-6).
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