Freud, Zizek, eros and thanatos

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David -- I am not sure what point you are trying to make. I was not playing 
semantic games. Nothing much hinges on complexity instead of complication. 
Complex is simply a somewhat better description of classificatory systems 
than is complicated. More accurate, but not necessarily better in any 
absolute sense. The crucial point is that we impose order on the world (or 
disorder; we impose entropy on the world) by means of our descriptions. We 
cannot make sense of the world -- indeed, cannot function in the world --  
without a conceptual scheme.

On Wed, August 11, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David Morris wrote:

Semantics w/o any difference:  complicated, complex, variations.


On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Page <page at quesnelbc.com> wrote:
>
> Life (the world) cannot be more complicated (complex) than a descriptive 
> framework because complication (complexity) is a property of frameworks, 
> not life or the world. Just as life is not written in English, it is 
> neither complicated nor simple. Only our descriptions or descriptive 
> frameworks are complicated or simple.
>
> Perhaps your point is more like the following?
>
> "As we all know but won't remember, any classificatory system is a net 
> spread on the blessed manifold of the individual blinding us to not all 
> but to too many of its variations and continuities."
>
> --John Wisdom, "Philosophy, Anxiety, and Novelty"
>
>
> David Morris wrote:
>
>
> Of course all descriptions are metaphors. That is not a weakness. It
> is the nature of thought. So instead of saying how Freud/Lacan/Zizek
> are "bonkers," you are really only complaining that life is more
> complicated than the framework they use to describe their
> observations. Of course it is, but do you have an alternative?
>
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