V-2nd Dopplegangers
alice wellintown
alicewellintown at gmail.com
Wed Aug 18 12:26:55 CDT 2010
Let oneself become an object? The free will, implied in this question,
suggests that P's satire is corrective. I've always disagreed with
Monroe, others who like to spill out that mantra about it being our
america that we let happen abd the other one keeping cool but caring.
P is the grim pheonix; there, deep in the tangles of the lines of
history is a gnostic pynchon, all attempts to escape or exit or find a
way or whatever presuppose free will, but after the second fall of
man, he no longer lets anything happen or makes anything happen. We
are all 20th century children now.
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:59 PM, David Payne <dpayne1912 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I realized today that at some point I had confused Yusef (chapter 3 section
> ii) with Da Conho (chapter 1 section iii), both imagining killing the guests
> they are serving.
>
> Then I recalled Fergus Mixolydian (chapter 5 section ii) and
> Bongo-Shaftsbury (chapter 3 section v), both with switches in their arms.
>
> Are there other sets of characters/scenes across the historic and present
> chapters in V.?
>
> Why? Is it just to compare the schlemiels to the villains, the comedic and
> the horrific, a chance to say "see what happens when you let yourselves
> become objects"?
>
> I guess for some dumb reason that I'm thinking more of specific scenes than
> say broad generalization like Profane and Stencil as counterpoints.
>
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