Someone (else) speak on Inherent Vice..?

[kelber at mindspring.com]

No need to view ourselves as opposing sides of the argument, so much as gradations on a scale.

LK

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jan 5, 2010 4:03 PM
>To: kelber at mindspring.com
>Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Subject: Re: Someone (else) speak on Inherent Vice..?
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>Laura, laura and rich, rich and grladams, grladams and alice, alice:
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>It is a sportello into'on his major works...it is a self-portrait, self-mocking and witty of an author finding his themes in a time and a place......
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>More minor than most, with those flaws some of you have pointed out----but so fine, as the Chiffons are always singing....
>
>--- On Tue, 1/5/10, kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> From: kelber at mindspring.com <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: Someone (else) speak on Inherent Vice..?
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 1:24 PM
>> I'll agree that the book's worth
>> reading for the glimpse it gives into the time and place the
>> author lived in while writing GR, but saying that IV
>> provides additional contexts for a reread of GR, COL49 and
>> ATD seems a little overblown.  Substitute "pale echoes
>> of" for "additional contexts in which to read" and I'm
>> completely on board.
>> 
>> Laura
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
>> 
>> >
>> >Funny, I thought the core topic of the book was the
>> attempt to  
>> >remember what life was like at Manhattan—excuse
>> me—Gordita Beach, way  
>> >back in 1970. I detect the author having a lot of fun
>> tussling with  
>> >narratorial authority, always leading to thoughts like
>> "It's a wonder  
>> >I can remember anything at all." Lots of quotidian 1970
>> Los Angeles at  
>> >the core of this remembrance of things past Rosecrans,
>> with all sorts  
>> >of cannabis flavored madeleines and other stoned
>> diversions scattered  
>> >along the way, leading to the usual cul-de-sacs and red
>> herrings we  
>> >all have learned to love so much over here at the
>> P-list. This is a  
>> >glimpse into those things that the author is most
>> familiar with, shit  
>> >he didn't have to look up, encapsulating the time and
>> place the author  
>> >lived in during the time he wrote the book that made
>> him famous. In  
>> >the process we are given additional contexts in which
>> to read  
>> >Gravity's Rainbow and The Crying of Lot 49, not to
>> mention the Noir- 
>> >laden Against the Day.
>> >
>> >On Jan 5, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Robert Mahnke wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey Jill,
>> >>
>> >> Could you say more about what you mean by your
>> first sentence?
>> >>
>> >> RPM
>> >
>> >> On 1/4/10, grladams at teleport.com
>> <grladams at teleport.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> OK, what I find so disappointing in IV is the lack
>> of deep artful  
>> >> writing
>> >> about the core topic of the book, which I presume
>> to be a  
>> >> revolutionary act
>> >> of reversing the flow of money. It's been a topic
>> before, reversals or
>> >> potentials of reversal-- from wistful missed
>> opportunities of  
>> >> Tesla's free
>> >> energy, reversal of time in photography, etc, and
>> IV coulda been a
>> >> contender.. but it aint. What I did like about IV
>> was the story of
>> >> Sportello's and Bjornsen's professional paths
>> beginning at conflicting
>> >> outlooks on the world, and then how by the end
>> there's Sportello  
>> >> kind of
>> >> being exposed, willingly? by Bjornsen, in a good
>> wake up and smell the
>> >> coffee kind of way, to dangers that whether we
>> agree or not, whether  
>> >> we
>> >> like it or not, bring about a concretization that
>> the 60's or the  
>> >> old ways,
>> >> are over.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >>
>> >> Original Message:
>> >> -----------------
>> >> From: Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
>> >> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:23:13 -0800 (PST)
>> >> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> >> Subject: Someone (else) speak on Inherent Vice..?
>> >
>> 
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