Back to the past....riffing on THE PRESERVED

[Ian Livingston]

The sea, as image, symbol, refers to the unconscious, yes? It is the
Mother (Mare, La Mer) of everything, of life, yes? of thought,
consciousness. It is chaos, from whence all things issue into the
realm where reasoned order can be imposed, and it reclaims all things
in the end. One of the first and most deeply rooted of all our
archetypal symbols, it resonates deeply with the N. European psyche,
if not among all cultures.

Is what is Preserved also that which can be said to have an Inherent Vice?


On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Specultions on the concept, The Preserved within TRP's fiction
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> 1) goes back deep in maritime law.
>      1A) back before and, mostly, outside the legal rise aand creations of nation states.
> fromBritannica Concise Encyclopediaalso called admiralty law, or admiralty,
> One early compilation of maritime regulations is the 6th-century Digest of Justinian. Roman maritime law and the 13th-century Consolat de Mar (“Consulate of the Sea”) both brought temporary uniformity of maritime law to the Mediterranean, but nationalism led many countries to develop their own maritime codes. Maritime law deals mainly with the eventualities of loss of a ship (e.g., through collision) or cargo, with insurance and liability relating to those eventualities, and with collision compensation and salvage rights. There has been an increasing tendency ... (100 of 6271 words)
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> A ship named THE PRESERVED might be thought to have a cargo of what, human values?,---cargo that had soul since that was what, twice, p. 90, it was said to have lost--- preserved from the past? From before nation-states and modern wars between them? Fighting over the territory of each nation, whereas the sea was........open to all?
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> .....we come from the sea.....Pynchon loves the water.....and some values associated with it, yes?
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>        1A) Sauncho had a piece of a class action suit against its cargo, we learned in this chapter
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