V-2nd: "No", she said" ........"Meaning yes"
Henry M
scuffling at gmail.com
Thu Jun 17 12:38:19 CDT 2010
That "Meaning yes" was voiced makes it more of a comment or question to
which Paola can reply "No means no" than an assertion.
AsB4,
Henry Mu
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
> Profane wasn't 'getting any' from Paola. Typical male way of putting
> it--and
> his Crew mates pestered for 'seconds' .....more adolescent sex talk.....
>
> Then, with it 'all Xmasy' and Pat Boone playing,
> "Somehow the young couple wandered into a darkened
> room with this bed in it.".....
>
> "No, she said"
> "Meaning yes".
>
> A very interesting moral crux here, yes?...1) we know that later
> in US history--maybe the world---the concept of No meaning NO..
> of full permission between two consenting adults became a very
> public discussion.....even a college mandate----actually put on paper
> by a college---Antioch? you can look it up............................
>
> 2) In Roth's "When She Was Good",--written later than V.--- he too did
> a longer scene of two young 50s folk making out (in a car, I believe),
> wherein Roth seems
> purposely less clear about full consent........Reader, he married her, but
> it did not work out.
>
> 3) This dialogue comes up again in V......
>
> 4) And, we are to believe the FULL TRUTH of "Meaning yes".....is intended
> by V.'s effaced narrator?
> That is, that Paola did mean yes?
>
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