V-2nd: "No", she said" ........"Meaning yes"

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 17 14:20:11 CDT 2010


Who voices it? Benny P?...
Why is it NOT a question, grammatically?




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From: Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: V-2nd: "No", she said" ........"Meaning yes"

That "Meaning yes" was voiced makes it more of a comment or question to which Paola can reply "No means no" than an assertion.

AsB4,

Henry Mu
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Kohut  wrote:

Profane wasn't 'getting any' from Paola. Typical male way of putting it--and
>his Crew mates pestered for 'seconds' .....more adolescent sex talk.....
>
>Then, with it 'all Xmasy' and Pat Boone playing,
>"Somehow the young couple wandered into a darkened
>room with this bed in it.".....
>
>"No, she said"
>"Meaning yes".
>
>A very interesting moral crux here, yes?...1) we know that later
>in US history--maybe the world---the concept of No meaning NO..
>of full permission between two consenting adults became a very
>public discussion.....even a college mandate----actually put on paper
>by a college---Antioch? you can look it up............................
>
>2) In Roth's "When She Was Good",--written later than V.--- he too did
>a longer scene of two young 50s folk making out (in a car, I believe), wherein Roth seems
>purposely less clear about full consent........Reader, he married her, but it did not work out.
>
>3) This dialogue comes up again in V......
>
>4) And, we are to believe the FULL TRUTH of "Meaning yes".....is intended by V.'s effaced narrator?
>That is, that Paola did mean yes?
>



      
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