current and I think complete V-list

[alice wellintown]

Yes, but P doesn't set out to improve on Chandler or even the Genre,
but writes a parody, that doesn't so much owe so so much to Chandler
as parody his works and the genre. While parody often involves a debt
of sorts, it's not something owed because it is so freely and easily
taken and mocked. Of course what we found so amusing when the reviews
of IV were published is how many mistook the parody for the real
McCoy.  So, Shakespeare improves old and ancient material with his
poetry and his playwrighting skill, but Pynchon doesn't improve
Chandler.

Again, the only Chandler worthy of a group read is The Visible Hand.


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
> I didn't say Pynchon was dreadful ...  Improving on bad sources stretches
> from Shakespeare to the Godfather movies.  Chandler is really awful.
>
> Too bad that Pynchon's last novel owes so much to Chandler, eh?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 11:41 pm
> Subject: Re: current and I think complete V-list
>
>
> On May 15, 2010, at 8:19 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Chandler's dreadful.  He's embarrassing.  If you want to read a book
>
>> in that vein read The Maltese Falcon.  Hammett writes circles around
>>
>> Chandler.]
>
>
> Too bad that Pynchon's last novel owes so much to Chandler, eh?
>
>