current and I think complete V-list

[Joseph Tracy]

Both parody and homage, I think. You may be a we but I, for one or  
many , found little in common with your reading of IV( I believe crap  
was the operant summary).  Are You going to vote or  just campaign  
against other people's book choices?  If you wish to cast a vote for  
a book about business management( The Visible Hand), do so. Perhaps  
you are onto a subterranean interest that even now is sparking a  
wildfire of literary curiosity.
On May 16, 2010, at 10:11 PM, alice wellintown wrote:

> Yes, but P doesn't set out to improve on Chandler or even the Genre,
> but writes a parody, that doesn't so much owe so so much to Chandler
> as parody his works and the genre. While parody often involves a debt
> of sorts, it's not something owed because it is so freely and easily
> taken and mocked. Of course what we found so amusing when the reviews
> of IV were published is how many mistook the parody for the real
> McCoy.  So, Shakespeare improves old and ancient material with his
> poetry and his playwrighting skill, but Pynchon doesn't improve
> Chandler.
>
> Again, the only Chandler worthy of a group read is The Visible Hand.
>
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>> I didn't say Pynchon was dreadful ...  Improving on bad sources  
>> stretches
>> from Shakespeare to the Godfather movies.  Chandler is really awful.
>>
>> Too bad that Pynchon's last novel owes so much to Chandler, eh?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 11:41 pm
>> Subject: Re: current and I think complete V-list
>>
>>
>> On May 15, 2010, at 8:19 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Chandler's dreadful.  He's embarrassing.  If you want to read a book
>>
>>> in that vein read The Maltese Falcon.  Hammett writes circles around
>>>
>>> Chandler.]
>>
>>
>> Too bad that Pynchon's last novel owes so much to Chandler, eh?
>>
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