current and I think complete V-list

[alice wellintown]

I'm too young to vote. But I'm rich. If I can bribe someone to put a
few books on the ballot:

Invisible Man or Three Days Before the Shooting
Ada or Ardor
Confidence Man or The Whale
The Jewish Party: Call it Sleep or  The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> Both parody and homage, I think. You may be a we but I, for one or many ,
> found little in common with your reading of IV( I believe crap was the
> operant summary).  Are You going to vote or  just campaign against other
> people's book choices?  If you wish to cast a vote for a book about business
> management( The Visible Hand), do so. Perhaps you are onto a subterranean
> interest that even now is sparking a wildfire of literary curiosity.
> On May 16, 2010, at 10:11 PM, alice wellintown wrote:
>
>> Yes, but P doesn't set out to improve on Chandler or even the Genre,
>> but writes a parody, that doesn't so much owe so so much to Chandler
>> as parody his works and the genre. While parody often involves a debt
>> of sorts, it's not something owed because it is so freely and easily
>> taken and mocked. Of course what we found so amusing when the reviews
>> of IV were published is how many mistook the parody for the real
>> McCoy.  So, Shakespeare improves old and ancient material with his
>> poetry and his playwrighting skill, but Pynchon doesn't improve
>> Chandler.
>>
>> Again, the only Chandler worthy of a group read is The Visible Hand.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn't say Pynchon was dreadful ...  Improving on bad sources stretches
>>> from Shakespeare to the Godfather movies.  Chandler is really awful.
>>>
>>> Too bad that Pynchon's last novel owes so much to Chandler, eh?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>
>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 11:41 pm
>>> Subject: Re: current and I think complete V-list
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 15, 2010, at 8:19 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chandler's dreadful.  He's embarrassing.  If you want to read a book
>>>
>>>> in that vein read The Maltese Falcon.  Hammett writes circles around
>>>>
>>>> Chandler.]
>>>
>>>
>>> Too bad that Pynchon's last novel owes so much to Chandler, eh?
>>>
>>>
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