V-2nd - Chapter 10: Partridge in a Pear tree

[alice wellintown]

The slab and esther scene is, obviously, a perverse reflection of the
sphere ruby scene. Is the sphere and ruby scene also perverse and is
it subjected to Pynchon's satire? Does sphere keep cool? does his
j-press suit and fancy car remind us that Rachel's daddy wears j-press
(I used to have closet full of them, my ex was a wall street bond
trader) and Rachel drives that fancy car her daddy pays for? what of
his comments about white boyz? he's selling and they are buying; he's
buying ruby here. or is she just giving it to him for free cause he
can play that feel inside her? and, whatz with all the disguises and
phony red-light trappings? can't the man love her in public? maybe
that bird, that ornate byrd just gonna go and fly into that gargoyle,
impale himself on that pole, hand his own ass cause he's strange
fruit.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have been visited by a spontaneous thought on my own post,
> my self-closed ouroborous loop speaking to me like madmen hear...
>
> Slab, whose art here is satirized of course, dismisses Esther superiorly for
> finding
> "allegory' in his art. We know that multi-layered Resonance Writer TRP
> works in allegorical plus modes. I.E. NOT one-to-one correspondence
> allegory but layers of real world ramification beyond the words themselves---the
> art thing
> itself.
>
> So, Slab's comic Cheese Danishes Thing In Itself is a chaste art?---without
> relationships, w/o sex,
> without a contamination from life and life only as Bobby D. is always saying?
>
> Slab's art is NOT Pynchon's idea of art, his work full of sex, relationships and
> allegorical resonances.
>
> ???
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> To: kelber at mindspring.com
> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 10:02:12 AM
> Subject: Re: V-2nd - Chapter 10: Partridge in a Pear tree
>
> Yes, Michael, that capital You is a small case 'you' in the later
> HarperPerennial Classics edition.
>
> And, I sorta always thought he, artist, is so committed to his art, he'd rather
> sleep alone....
> In his 'chaste army cot'...
>
> Or, do others think he just doesn't want to do it with Esther, "after
> Schoenmaker cut her off"????
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 9:52:39 AM
> Subject: Re: V-2nd - Chapter 10: Partridge in a Pear tree
>
> Didn't notice that one, Michael.  Guess I was too busy being offended by the
> crack about the Sunday Times crossword puzzle.  Phony?  Hmmmph!
>
> Laura
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Nov 4, 2010 1:56 AM
>>To: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>Subject: Re: V-2nd - Chapter 10: Partridge in a Pear tree
>>
>>Slab says "Unworthy of You" in his criticism of Esther's interpretation.
>>
>>Is the capital "You" another Harper Perennial typo?
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>>
>>I'm not sure why he's turning down sex.  It seems like a pretty
>>steadfast offer on Esther's part.
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>>
>>--
>>"Such regulations may, no doubt, be considered as in some respects a
>>violation of natural liberty. But those exertions of the natural
>>liberty of a few individuals, which might endanger the security of the
>>whole society, are, and ought to be, restrained by the laws of all
>>governments, of the most free as well as of the most despotical." -
>>Adam Smith
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