V2nd - Chapter 10, au revoir, hello East Orange?

[Mark Kohut]

Via Mike B.'s 'commodius vicus of recirculation, I've relearned just how rich is 
Chapter 11....so much forgotten
despite earlier readings..............

In a too-quick answer to Laura's ob below, I might suggest this chapter leads to 
V....is a portrait of the author
in various forms--like V.---arriving at his Maltese-grounded vision.............

Among lots of other things..............................


----- Original Message ----
From: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 5:52:11 PM
Subject: Re: V2nd - Chapter 10, au revoir, hello East Orange?

Thanks, Michael.  Chapter 11 is a dense one, 50 or so pages long, so it's been 
allotted 3 weeks (until 12/5) to digest.  I'm fully expecting and hoping that 
Alice-Terrance will situate it for us in the American literary tradition.  But 
there are other literary influences afoot.  Dig in, everyone!  I haven't read 
Borges, but I'm guessing his influence is here, mainly by extrapolating 
backwards from Bolano's "The Savage Detectives," which seems to intersect with 
Fausto's Confessions in terms of the protagonist feeling himself to be at the 
forefront of a new literary movement.  Was that book influenced by this chapter, 
or were both influenced by Borges?

One thing that strikes me about Chapter 11 is that, so far as I can recall (I 
stand to be corrected here!) this first-person confessional, or parody of a 
first-person confessional, is the only such example in all of Pynchon's works. 
Mondaugen's Story leads to GR; this stands alone.  Examples to the contrary, 
anyone?

Laura


-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 14, 2010 2:29 PM
>To: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Subject: V2nd - Chapter 10, au revoir, hello East Orange?
>
>by a commodious vicus of recirculation, if my slide rule calculates
>correctly, we've spent 2 fruitful weeks discussing Chapter 10, and
>thank you to Laura for timely and pertinent commentary (and to others,
>you know who you are)
>
>I think the confessional theme is carried forward in Chapter 12, The
>Confessions of Fausto Maijstral
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>has he struck a Faustian bargain?  He seems to think he's a very
>changed man.  Do his 3 phases represent a Hegelian progression, or
>perhaps the 3 states of matter: solid liquid and gas?
>
>Once again we leave Nueva York and environs and the 1950s, like
>Peabody and Sherman and the Wayback Machine...
>
>I can hardly wait!
>
>"This way to the museyroom. Mind your hats goin' in" (JJ, FW: "this is
>the big wide harse of Willingdone")
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>-- 
>"Such regulations may, no doubt, be considered as in some respects a
>violation of natural liberty. But those exertions of the natural
>liberty of a few individuals, which might endanger the security of the
>whole society, are, and ought to be, restrained by the laws of all
>governments, of the most free as well as of the most despotical." -
>Adam Smith