V2nd - chapter 11 - more examples - Bastardized?

[Mark Kohut]

Okay, okay............james was dead before Hammett published Red Harvest....
so,,,,,James was first but I wonder if Hammett read him?  


----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
To: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 8:35:28 PM
Subject: Re: V2nd - chapter 11 - more examples - Bastardized?

And "more again" as my grandson Jackson sez: 
"Hammett with 'Red Harvest' was very influential in his use of
first person for narrative voice AND point-of-view!.....

And here our rhetorician Booth said it was James, neither
of whom---Booth, James---probably read Hammett!!........

So, that effaced narrator style used by TRP and so many others  is Hammett and 
James origininated!...
Dont'cha love it!




----- Original Message ----
From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 6:19:39 PM
Subject: Re: V2nd - chapter 11 - more examples - Bastardized?

There is a wonderful discussion of these issues in Martin Priestman's
(editor) Cambridge Companion to Crime Fiction; it includes a
discussion of Pynchon, postmodern and modern, detective and
anti-detective, McHale, Oedipus....and you may read it online.