V2nd - chapter 11 - more examples - Bastardized?

[Mark Kohut]

What I was throwing out--tentatively, obliquely, either creatively or 
stupidly--- was this notion: Stencil's thematic quest as we read V. might be 
expressed as What has happened to the Animate in History? 

It is becoming Inanimate but will never get there fully...

So, History is a tragedy; History is still comic...






----- Original Message ----
From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 5:19:46 PM
Subject: Re: V2nd - chapter 11 - more examples - Bastardized?

I can't quite make out what is menat here by "tragicomic"? I' familiar
enough with th term and I looked it up in a few Handbooks on and off
line, but I can't quite fathom it as a term applied to a novel like
V.. Care to exaplin?

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Seconded but I will add that P in V. is saying he wish it were not so
> true....that he wishes
> V. existed in the culture animately so we could "live' in her presence,,,Yes?
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> I think this is Very true.
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> On 29.11.2010 18:33, Ian Livingston wrote:
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>> mystery of V., you might be tempted to say, is Stencil's Lacanian
>> "other" and Stencil derives his jouissance from his desire for that
>> other. Thus, to solve the mystery would destroy the other and there
>> would be no more joy in life for Stencil. So, even if he finds her, he
>> must continue to search for V.
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