Jonathan Franzen

[mfarcas at mail.com]

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/features/view/feature/Franzen-Obama-Delightful-America-Almost-a-Rogue-State-2392

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
To: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
Cc: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>; mfarcas at mail.com; pynchon-l at waste.org
Sent: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 6:59 pm
Subject: Re: Jonathan Franzen: 'America is almost a rogue state'


I'm starting to like Franzen more all the time. Anyone intimidated

into silence because of their vocation deserves what they thus consent

to. Writers, like teachers, students, ironworkers, plumbers, and hod

carriers ought to be heard from. Politicians need the input so they

won't be condemned to accepting the voices they do hear--which come

from lawyers, plutes, and generals.



On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:40 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> agreed but shouldn't writers be read not heard

>

> who fucking cares what he thinks personally. that goes for Pynchon, as

> well. with that said writers wouldn't be all didactic up my ass

> either. nothing worse than being preached to

>

> i would also say hesitantly america was a rogue state but boy has

> obama been a disappointment on that score. nothing's changed. and now

> he wants to increase reapproachment with the republicans

> post-election. incredible

>

> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:31 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Of course the neocons would object - he's pointing his finger straight

>> at them!  Here's a short list of why he's on target (and he did temper

>> the charge with "almost"):

>>

>> 1.  Unprovoked Iraq war justified w/ known lies.

>> 2.  Newly classified captives stripping them of all human rights.

>> 3.  Torture.

>>

>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:52 AM,  <mfarcas at mail.com> wrote:

>>> Franzen stirring controversy by saying (among other things) that 'America is 

almost a rogue state'

>>>

>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/video/2010/oct/25/jonathan-franzen-freedom

>>>

>>> The almost instant reaction of the neocons (which does not come as a 

surprise):

>>>

>>> http://cifwatch.com/2010/10/25/the-dull-and-throbbing-anti-americanism-of-jonathan-franzen-the-guardian-interview/

>>

>







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