Recog ch 2

[Richard Ryan]

That Wyatt is a certain type of "recognized" or "recognizable"
American Innocent  is essentially right, I'd say.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes, and some part of pride is often simple self-respect not
> just a kind of hubris, I might add.
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> I would call it 'innocence' in my essay. "Wyatt's eyes burned as he looked,
> turning green."
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> Suggesting that since Why is not made explicit, it is because such dishonesty is
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> naturally felt to be 'wrong'.
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> Innocence like Ishmael's, like a James' heroine, like Huck Finn's...
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> From: Richard Ryan <himself at richardryan.com>
> To: Michael Bailey <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com>
> Cc: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 9:03:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Recog ch 2
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> I don't believe the novel is explicit about what offends Wyatt about
> Cremer's offer (Wyatt calls it "insane"); readers are left to surmise
> for themselves.  Perhaps its a genuine moral indignation at the
> proposed dishonesty....but perhaps its also a matter of pride: Wyatt
> may be offended by the suggestion that his work is not sufficiently
> brilliant to attract favorable notices on its own, that he would have
> to pay for a good review of his paintings.  The irony that his genuine
> canvases would only provoke "forged" criticism is obvious.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Michael Bailey
> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I guess Wyatt doesn't hope for an eternal reward.
>>>
>>> All his history to me at one point suggested that.
>>
>> which things made you think that?
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>> for me the idea cropped up when he talks about "the vanishing point"
>> which is suggestive but I'm not sure how to express why that makes me
>> think about post-life planning...
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>> mainly, though, the best indicator is that he doesn't act in his own
>> epicurean interests, but refuses Cremer's kind offer --
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>> If he doesn't believe in some kind of transcendental rightness that he
>> has to answer to, be judged by, and expect non-earthly rewards from,
>> then why does he do that?
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