TRTR(I.3) Hidden Profits [Epigraph]

[Richard Ryan]

The homophobia in Gaddis may be like the misogyny in Pynchon; partly a
symptom of the times, partly a symptom in the author.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
> On 4/29/2011 1:46 PM, David Morris wrote:
>>
>> It was the overly-stereotypical dialogue of the various members of the
>> NYC (what I call) Whole Sick Crew that put me off last time I read TR.
>>  It's got to be satire, but not necessarily friendly satire.  It seems
>> very likely to me that V's Whole Sick Crew was inspired by this one in
>> TR.  And TRP's depiction of homosexuality in GR isn't too friendly
>> either.  I think men in their eras were a lot less at ease with
>> homosexuality in general
>>
> Is it a good idea, though, to judge art (in this case literary writing) on
> the basis of fairness to minorities, or majorities for that matter?
>
> In discussions of TR the word authenticity is often in the fore.  Mark
> alluded to Trilling's Sincerity and Authenticity.   It's more than just that
> art isn't meant to teach good behavior.  It's that art itself is not good
> behavior.  In fact it is almost certainly bad behavior.  (in a manner of
> speaking) Bad behavior can hurt.
>
> The good news is we can appreciate it without having to act it out.  Or
> bring it home to the children.
>
> In life it's a good idea not to be too authentic.
>
> That's  the way I see it.  (not everyone does)
>
> P
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>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:37 PM, rich<richard.romeo at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> if only to play up those who aren't what they seem. if memory serves,
>>> The Swede is married but is a flamer
>>>
>>> but it's so clearly satirical--it doesn't seem malicious on gaddis' part
>>> (i.e. its what these people do that Gaddis mocks not who they are) at least
>>> thats how I see it
>
>
>



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