TRTR(I.3) Hidden Profits [Epigraph]

[Erik T. Burns]

Even a symptom in us all...



On 29/04/2011, at 21:00, Richard Ryan <himself at richardryan.com> wrote:

> The homophobia in Gaddis may be like the misogyny in Pynchon; partly a
> symptom of the times, partly a symptom in the author.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
>> On 4/29/2011 1:46 PM, David Morris wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was the overly-stereotypical dialogue of the various members of the
>>> NYC (what I call) Whole Sick Crew that put me off last time I read TR.
>>>  It's got to be satire, but not necessarily friendly satire.  It seems
>>> very likely to me that V's Whole Sick Crew was inspired by this one in
>>> TR.  And TRP's depiction of homosexuality in GR isn't too friendly
>>> either.  I think men in their eras were a lot less at ease with
>>> homosexuality in general
>>> 
>> Is it a good idea, though, to judge art (in this case literary writing) on
>> the basis of fairness to minorities, or majorities for that matter?
>> 
>> In discussions of TR the word authenticity is often in the fore.  Mark
>> alluded to Trilling's Sincerity and Authenticity.   It's more than just that
>> art isn't meant to teach good behavior.  It's that art itself is not good
>> behavior.  In fact it is almost certainly bad behavior.  (in a manner of
>> speaking) Bad behavior can hurt.
>> 
>> The good news is we can appreciate it without having to act it out.  Or
>> bring it home to the children.
>> 
>> In life it's a good idea not to be too authentic.
>> 
>> That's  the way I see it.  (not everyone does)
>> 
>> P
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>> 
>>> David Morris
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:37 PM, rich<richard.romeo at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> if only to play up those who aren't what they seem. if memory serves,
>>>> The Swede is married but is a flamer
>>>> 
>>>> but it's so clearly satirical--it doesn't seem malicious on gaddis' part
>>>> (i.e. its what these people do that Gaddis mocks not who they are) at least
>>>> thats how I see it
>> 
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