"You're gonna want cause & effect"---GR

[Ian Livingston]

Wellll, on second thought, as the problem I point at here is really a
problem of post-modernist approaches to most depths, i.e., Jamesonian
pastiche, I suppose Nietzsche is nearer the mark than I thought.
Westerners take on the mantle without achieving the realizations
primarily because European society and its colonial offspring are just
barely, if at all, out of warrior culture. They try to battle their
way into enlightenment, all the while denying the fight. Comic,
really. Jung would have had a field day with these folks.

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the later fragments Nietzsche says that by the 21. century most
>> Westerners will be sorta Buddhists,
>> because we, by now, lack the will to power, became decadent and lost all
>> aristocratic sense of dignity.
>
> Odd, one of my most emphatic disputes with contemporary Western
> Buddhists is to do with the way they assume a mantle of aristocratic
> self-importance with their robes while bowing in mock humility and
> declaiming backhandedly upon the subject their selflessness by
> commenting on their noble attributes as expressed in the
> manifestations of those attributes in their "most holy" teachers and
> bodhisatvas.
>
> So I'm inclined to agree with Jed more than Friedrich on that point.
>
>>> Westerners like Buddhism because they think it will make their egos happy.
>
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>
>> On 20.08.2011 18:59, Jed Kelestron wrote:
>>
>>> Westerners like Buddhism because they think it will make their egos happy.
>>
>> In the later fragments Nietzsche says that by the 21. century most
>> Westerners will be sorta Buddhists,
>> because we, by now, lack the will to power, became decadent and lost all
>> aristocratic sense of dignity.
>>
>> Now everybody please go back to your hatha-yoga exercises!
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>



-- 
"Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant