NP: Alienation and Sedition Act?

[Henry M]

That  "Require" is a bitch, ain't it?  Judging by the rest of the language
of those sections, it sounds like it was added at the last minute in order
to get it out of committee.  I hope that they change it to "permit" after
the veto.

AsB4,
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Henry Mu
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:

> The language is ambiguous. Lawyers love ambiguous language precisely
> because it is so easily manipulated. I agree with Obama on this one,
> that to err on the side of caution is the preferred action. Better not
> to allow the language in such a bill.
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:28 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/detainee_policy_gone_horribly033822.php
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday 60 members of the United States Senate voted to preserve a
> > provision in the National Defense Authorization Act — that would be
> > the bill that funds the Pentagon — allowing the U.S. military to pick
> > up and detain, without charges or trial, anyone suspected of
> > terrorism, including American citizens, and to restrict transfers of
> > prisoners out of Guantanamo Bay. Specifically, 60 senators voted
> > against an amendment that would have invalidated the part of the bill
> > which empowers the president and the military to detain anyone they
> > suspect was involved in the 9/11 attacks or supports al-Qaida, the
> > Taliban, or “associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against
> > the United States or its coalition partners.”
> >
> > President Obama has said he will veto the larger bill if the detainee
> > provision remains intact, but that hasn’t been enough to sway the
> > Senate.
> >
> > Just 38 senators did the right thing when the measure reached the
> > Senate floor. One of them was Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.), who explained
> > to his colleagues just how significant this step is.
> >
> > ” [W]hat we are talking about here is that Americans could be
> > subjected to life imprisonment. Think about that for a minute. Life
> > imprisonment. Without ever being charged, tried, or convicted of a
> > crime. Without ever having an opportunity to prove your innocence to a
> > judge or a jury of your peers. And without the government ever having
> > to prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I think that denigrates
> > the very foundations of this country.”
>
>
>
> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
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