V---2nd Pynchon theme? on Kraus' remark in an oblique way and from wittgenstein around time of GR

[Mark Kohut]

WittTweets Wittgenstein Tweets 
My friend Hutt is depressed. My advice to him is to avoid psychologists and to 
apply to be sent to a unit near the Front. (1944, aged 54)

The line about logic being a human creation from "The Epilogue" of V. which I 
quoted earlier
could be sourced in Wittgenstein most famously, a writer we know TRP 
read...............




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Kraus' aphorism in German:

Psychoanalyse ist jene Geisteskrankheit, für deren Therapie sie sich
hält. (Die Fackel, 376, p. 21)

You see perhaps that the translation could be better: it is not
another aspect but the disease, the mental illness, itself, says KK.

And you should read the Last Days of Mankind, not want to see it
staged. It's impossible to stage. Here you can at least hear Kraus
reading the poem "Die Raben":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACCf6YFmYTU

It is captured on film, there you could see him lift his hands,
letting them flutter like the birds in question. It's haunting.

2011/3/12 Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>:
> He satirizes (almost) everything, even most of the thinkers, ideas that fill 
>his
>
> books, right?
>
> So, especially in V. and GR, he loads in some psychoanalytic ideas, Freudian,
> etc. and perhaps
> examples---all that sado-masochistic sex, say?---of psychoanalytically-studied
> perversions?
>
> An aphorism of karl kraus, savage satirist of the Austria/Germany/Vienna of 
his
> time
>
> especially of Freud(ianism), has stuck with me:
>
> "Psychoanalysis is another aspect of the disease it purports to cure"....
>
> Would TRP agree?
>
> Another work I've always wanted to read---or see staged!---Last Days of 
>Mankind,
> look
> it and Kraus up on wikipedia if interested.
>
>
>
>