mic check goes Presidential
Henry M
scuffling at gmail.com
Fri Nov 25 12:58:45 CST 2011
It seems we differ on what we believe are Pynchon's feelings concerning
social movements. We see it abused in every one of his books, and the
anarchist mute dance is a marvel and very nice for the dancers, but
accomplishes nothing but a good feeling, and only for the few deaf
participants. The coopting and selling-out of and by every side makes it
very difficult to believe that the narrator believes in the purity of even
the purest movement. The chanting of insipid slogans ain't anarchy where I
come from. Even if it existed, that airship of which you speak doesn't
have room for the poor, and it takes a pilot and knowledgeable crew;
sentient dogs alone won't do.
AsB4,
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Henry Mu
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pres Obama did say to the mic check Occupyers, off-TV-cameras, that "you
> are the reason I ran for office"....I still want to and do believe
> that of him......maybe "common ground between us"? ....
>
> As I see it, your either-for-certain-political-social actions or the-
> Occupyers- are- wasting- their -and-our-time is an example of the either-or
> thinking
> I was referring to.........it leads you to minimize any meanings re
> Homeland Security actions.....that conference call gave more than a few
> 'talking points' that sometimes had little to do with reality as
> justification for forcing out Occupyers. OWS was not 'dirty;
> unhealthy"....it WAS
> camping out in a park which had now outlawed THAT.....UC Davis Chanceller
> used the 'unhealthy; disorder' line when she OKed campus police
> to .....clear them out....[those pepper-sprayed were not disorderly,
> unhealthy where they were]......your general critique of 'lefties' falls
> into the
> either-or prism clearly, I say. ---either we do direct political party or
> social action...help the poor get more....or we are......wrong, acting
> wrongl
>
> The Excluded Middle is the Occupyers ,so to analogize......it was direct
> 'action' of simple presence...outside the simplistic either-or paradigms....
>
> What your argument lacks, imho, ---in pynchonian terms ---is seeing the
> Occupyers as the positive 'movements' Pynchon has
> in his vision: The Occupyers are 'the anarchist mute dance' from Lot
> 49.....The Occupyers set up an 'underground' communication sytem
> ala The Trystero, complete with mailboxes and libraries.....The Occupyers
> all wear T-shirts taken from the pile, so to speak
> "closest thing you are going to get to pure anarchism" sez someone from
> Against the Day.....
>
> the Occupyers want a new airship. ....
>
>
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