mic check goes Presidential

[Ian Livingston]

> It seems we differ on what we believe are Pynchon's feelings concerning
> social movements.  We see it abused in every one of his books, and the
> anarchist mute dance is a marvel and very nice for the dancers, but
> accomplishes nothing but a good feeling, and only for the few deaf
> participants.

I am unwilling to speculate on what Pynchon the man supports or
dislikes in contemporary politics. I do, however, think the mute dance
of CoL49 is emblematic of the Anarchist Miracle, rather than a
diversionary entertainment. Why are the dancers deaf and mute in this
example? Are deaf to seductive tones of others' music, unable to
persuade with their own voices? Do they act without direction because
there is none, or because they are immune it?
Just askin.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
 very difficult to believe that the narrator believes in the purity of even
> the purest movement.  The chanting of insipid slogans ain't anarchy where I
> come from.  Even if it existed, that airship of which you speak doesn't have
> room for the poor, and it takes a pilot and knowledgeable crew; sentient
> dogs alone won't do.
>
> AsB4,
> ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
> Henry Mu
> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pres Obama did say to the mic check Occupyers, off-TV-cameras, that "you
>> are the reason I ran for office"....I still want to and do believe
>> that of him......maybe "common ground between us"? ....
>>
>> As I see it, your either-for-certain-political-social actions or the-
>> Occupyers- are- wasting- their -and-our-time is an example of the either-or
>> thinking
>> I was referring to.........it leads you to minimize any meanings re
>> Homeland Security actions.....that conference call gave more than a few
>> 'talking points' that sometimes had little to do with reality as
>> justification for forcing out Occupyers. OWS was not 'dirty;
>> unhealthy"....it WAS
>> camping out in a park which had now outlawed THAT.....UC Davis Chanceller
>> used the 'unhealthy; disorder' line when she OKed campus police
>> to .....clear them out....[those pepper-sprayed were not disorderly,
>> unhealthy where they were]......your general critique of 'lefties' falls
>> into the
>> either-or prism clearly, I say. ---either we do direct political party or
>> social action...help the poor get more....or we are......wrong, acting
>> wrongl
>>
>> The Excluded Middle is the Occupyers ,so to analogize......it was direct
>> 'action' of simple presence...outside the simplistic either-or paradigms....
>>
>> What your argument lacks, imho, ---in pynchonian terms ---is seeing the
>> Occupyers as the positive 'movements' Pynchon has
>> in his vision:    The Occupyers are 'the anarchist mute dance' from Lot
>> 49.....The Occupyers set up an 'underground' communication sytem
>> ala The Trystero, complete with mailboxes and libraries.....The Occupyers
>> all wear T-shirts taken from the pile, so to speak
>> "closest thing you are going to get to pure anarchism" sez someone from
>> Against the Day.....
>>
>> the Occupyers want a new airship. ....
>>
>
>



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"Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant