NP - OWS is Winning

[Ian Livingston]

Well, Henry, you can continue with the wax over your ears, and your
rose-colored glasses. Me, I'm on board for the duration. OWS has
started something bigger than happened in the 60s and 70s. You can let
that pass because the new set of protesters doesn't do it the way you
want it done, or you can pick up the lesson book and take it to
school.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
> That OWS is a mob (a large or disorderly crowd of people) did not detract
> from the message going into month two of the occupancies.  That it never
> became more than a mob, and has not since developed new ends or means (with
> the exception mic-checking) has.
>
> There is no comparison with the sixties.  There is no draft.  There is no
> carpet-bombing.  And in the sixties, we expected to be arrested when we
> broke the law.  I'm down with the goals that came out of OWS; out of the
> mouths of babes, and all that, but OWS has been seen, and there is now very
> little worth hearing.
>
>
> AsB4,
> ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
> Henry Mu
> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> > Just sayin' that standing up doesn't make you
>> > right and (hopefully) doesn't automatically give you power.
>> >
>> > That the occupancy movement has generally been peaceful in most
>> > locations is
>> > to the credit of the countries in which it has mushroomed.  In countries
>> > where they have been demonstrating against serious repression or
>> > incredible
>> > levels of unemployment, there have been clashes between understandably
>> > angry
>> > mobs, yes mobs, and the armies and the police.
>>
>> Right, and then, Henry, does being among the thus oppressed masses
>> make them "mobs" deserving of the implied derision of the term? That
>> they stand against their oppressors and the oppressors' thugs even
>> come push to shove does not cheapen their intent any more than it did
>> the progressive movements of the 60s and 70s. All of these movements
>> are composed of individuals at differing stages of development. That
>> "the People" of so many different calibers agree that the current
>> regimes must either self-correct or go speaks volumes to the nature of
>> the problem. And, yes, you can say that the people are the problem if
>> you refer to overpopulation; but, I do not think the people's response
>> to oppression is the problem.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Miley Cyrus?!  Didn't see any of those thousands of Beck supporters and
>> > Rally to Restore Sanity attendees who peacefully stood "up for what they
>> >
>> > AsB4,
>> > ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
>> > Henry Mu
>> > http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ovs0fpFgeqw#!
>> >>
>> >> The new video for Miley Cyrus’s “Liberty Walk” single goes out in
>> >> support of the Occupy Wall Street movement with clips of protests from
>> >> all over the world. A caption at the beginning reads “This is
>> >> dedicated to the thousands of people who are standing up for what they
>> >> believe in…”
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/28/1040514/-Occupy-protests-invade-GOP-primary?detail=hide&via=blog_1
>> >> >
>> >> > Over the weekend, the wingnut (but influential, supposedly) Union
>> >> > Leader in New Hampshire endorsed Newt Gingrich. The publisher
>> >> > explained their decision to Fox News:
>> >> >
>> >> > "I think — and this is crazy, but so are we — that Gingrich is going
>> >> > to have a better time in the general election than Mitt Romney,” said
>> >> > McQuaid. “I think it’s going to be Obama’s 99% versus the 1%, and
>> >> > Romney sort of represents the 1%.”
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a tacit confession that the Occupy message is working.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
>> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
>> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
>> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
>



-- 
"Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant