NP - OWS is Winning

Henry M scuffling at gmail.com
Tue Nov 29 11:04:03 CST 2011


Ian, I have never seen you write like such an adolescent.  The juvenile,
unreasoned, but passionate taunts of OWS become you!  I have no wax over my
ears and, unlike many, I will not extol the emporers new clothes, as I do
not have the party-line wool pulled over my eyes, and I have not drunk, and
I will not drink, the any demonstration and any change is good kool-aid.

AsB4,
٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
Henry Mu
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well, Henry, you can continue with the wax over your ears, and your
> rose-colored glasses. Me, I'm on board for the duration. OWS has
> started something bigger than happened in the 60s and 70s. You can let
> that pass because the new set of protesters doesn't do it the way you
> want it done, or you can pick up the lesson book and take it to
> school.
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That OWS is a mob (a large or disorderly crowd of people) did not detract
> > from the message going into month two of the occupancies.  That it never
> > became more than a mob, and has not since developed new ends or means
> (with
> > the exception mic-checking) has.
> >
> > There is no comparison with the sixties.  There is no draft.  There is no
> > carpet-bombing.  And in the sixties, we expected to be arrested when we
> > broke the law.  I'm down with the goals that came out of OWS; out of the
> > mouths of babes, and all that, but OWS has been seen, and there is now
> very
> > little worth hearing.
> >
> >
> > AsB4,
> > ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
> > Henry Mu
> > http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just sayin' that standing up doesn't make you
> >> > right and (hopefully) doesn't automatically give you power.
> >> >
> >> > That the occupancy movement has generally been peaceful in most
> >> > locations is
> >> > to the credit of the countries in which it has mushroomed.  In
> countries
> >> > where they have been demonstrating against serious repression or
> >> > incredible
> >> > levels of unemployment, there have been clashes between understandably
> >> > angry
> >> > mobs, yes mobs, and the armies and the police.
> >>
> >> Right, and then, Henry, does being among the thus oppressed masses
> >> make them "mobs" deserving of the implied derision of the term? That
> >> they stand against their oppressors and the oppressors' thugs even
> >> come push to shove does not cheapen their intent any more than it did
> >> the progressive movements of the 60s and 70s. All of these movements
> >> are composed of individuals at differing stages of development. That
> >> "the People" of so many different calibers agree that the current
> >> regimes must either self-correct or go speaks volumes to the nature of
> >> the problem. And, yes, you can say that the people are the problem if
> >> you refer to overpopulation; but, I do not think the people's response
> >> to oppression is the problem.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Miley Cyrus?!  Didn't see any of those thousands of Beck supporters
> and
> >> > Rally to Restore Sanity attendees who peacefully stood "up for what
> they
> >> >
> >> > AsB4,
> >> > ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
> >> > Henry Mu
> >> > http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ovs0fpFgeqw#!
> >> >>
> >> >> The new video for Miley Cyrus’s “Liberty Walk” single goes out in
> >> >> support of the Occupy Wall Street movement with clips of protests
> from
> >> >> all over the world. A caption at the beginning reads “This is
> >> >> dedicated to the thousands of people who are standing up for what
> they
> >> >> believe in…”
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/28/1040514/-Occupy-protests-invade-GOP-primary?detail=hide&via=blog_1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Over the weekend, the wingnut (but influential, supposedly) Union
> >> >> > Leader in New Hampshire endorsed Newt Gingrich. The publisher
> >> >> > explained their decision to Fox News:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "I think — and this is crazy, but so are we — that Gingrich is
> going
> >> >> > to have a better time in the general election than Mitt Romney,”
> said
> >> >> > McQuaid. “I think it’s going to be Obama’s 99% versus the 1%, and
> >> >> > Romney sort of represents the 1%.”
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is a tacit confession that the Occupy message is working.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> >> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> >> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> >> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> >> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
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