NP - OWS is Winning

[Ian Livingston]

Sorry, Henry, I woke up cranky and reacted like a cranky kid.

Even so, I do support the movement.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian, I have never seen you write like such an adolescent.  The juvenile,
> unreasoned, but passionate taunts of OWS become you!  I have no wax over my
> ears and, unlike many, I will not extol the emporers new clothes, as I do
> not have the party-line wool pulled over my eyes, and I have not drunk, and
> I will not drink, the any demonstration and any change is good kool-aid.
>
>
> AsB4,
> ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
> Henry Mu
> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Well, Henry, you can continue with the wax over your ears, and your
>> rose-colored glasses. Me, I'm on board for the duration. OWS has
>> started something bigger than happened in the 60s and 70s. You can let
>> that pass because the new set of protesters doesn't do it the way you
>> want it done, or you can pick up the lesson book and take it to
>> school.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > That OWS is a mob (a large or disorderly crowd of people) did not
>> > detract
>> > from the message going into month two of the occupancies.  That it never
>> > became more than a mob, and has not since developed new ends or means
>> > (with
>> > the exception mic-checking) has.
>> >
>> > There is no comparison with the sixties.  There is no draft.  There is
>> > no
>> > carpet-bombing.  And in the sixties, we expected to be arrested when we
>> > broke the law.  I'm down with the goals that came out of OWS; out of the
>> > mouths of babes, and all that, but OWS has been seen, and there is now
>> > very
>> > little worth hearing.
>> >
>> >
>> > AsB4,
>> > ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
>> > Henry Mu
>> > http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Ian Livingston
>> > <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Just sayin' that standing up doesn't make you
>> >> > right and (hopefully) doesn't automatically give you power.
>> >> >
>> >> > That the occupancy movement has generally been peaceful in most
>> >> > locations is
>> >> > to the credit of the countries in which it has mushroomed.  In
>> >> > countries
>> >> > where they have been demonstrating against serious repression or
>> >> > incredible
>> >> > levels of unemployment, there have been clashes between
>> >> > understandably
>> >> > angry
>> >> > mobs, yes mobs, and the armies and the police.
>> >>
>> >> Right, and then, Henry, does being among the thus oppressed masses
>> >> make them "mobs" deserving of the implied derision of the term? That
>> >> they stand against their oppressors and the oppressors' thugs even
>> >> come push to shove does not cheapen their intent any more than it did
>> >> the progressive movements of the 60s and 70s. All of these movements
>> >> are composed of individuals at differing stages of development. That
>> >> "the People" of so many different calibers agree that the current
>> >> regimes must either self-correct or go speaks volumes to the nature of
>> >> the problem. And, yes, you can say that the people are the problem if
>> >> you refer to overpopulation; but, I do not think the people's response
>> >> to oppression is the problem.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Miley Cyrus?!  Didn't see any of those thousands of Beck supporters
>> >> > and
>> >> > Rally to Restore Sanity attendees who peacefully stood "up for what
>> >> > they
>> >> >
>> >> > AsB4,
>> >> > ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
>> >> > Henry Mu
>> >> > http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:23 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ovs0fpFgeqw#!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The new video for Miley Cyrus’s “Liberty Walk” single goes out in
>> >> >> support of the Occupy Wall Street movement with clips of protests
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> all over the world. A caption at the beginning reads “This is
>> >> >> dedicated to the thousands of people who are standing up for what
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> believe in…”
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/28/1040514/-Occupy-protests-invade-GOP-primary?detail=hide&via=blog_1
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Over the weekend, the wingnut (but influential, supposedly) Union
>> >> >> > Leader in New Hampshire endorsed Newt Gingrich. The publisher
>> >> >> > explained their decision to Fox News:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "I think — and this is crazy, but so are we — that Gingrich is
>> >> >> > going
>> >> >> > to have a better time in the general election than Mitt Romney,”
>> >> >> > said
>> >> >> > McQuaid. “I think it’s going to be Obama’s 99% versus the 1%, and
>> >> >> > Romney sort of represents the 1%.”
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is a tacit confession that the Occupy message is working.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>> >> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
>> >> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
>> >> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
>> >> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
>> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
>> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
>> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
>



-- 
"Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant