A visibly artful and oneiric film...

[Paul Mackin]

On 10/28/2011 2:26 PM, jochen stremmel wrote:
> "Anders als die Anderen" from 1919?



This was before talkies.  It dared say its name only in titles.

European movies were ahead of Anglo-America.

In the English speaking world the first male-male kiss is reported to be 
in "Sunday, Bloody Sunday" in the early seventies.   (kisses are 
important in the history of movies, aren't they)

"Compulsion" (late 50s) treated homosexuality frankly but in a very non 
PC manner.  Not "explicit" yet, I guess.

Also, much earlier, there was "Rope" (late forties),  also a based on 
the Leopold and Loeb case.

Incidentally is anyone else reading Hollinghurst's The Stranger's Child, 
which deals very much with the effect of changing attitude toward same 
sex relations between Edwardian days and the present, most specifically 
the effect on literary biography.  It has a Rupert Brooks like character.

P.


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> 2011/10/28<kelber at mindspring.com>:
>> Hi, Mr. Carvill - you've been missed.  I actually saw this movie.  There was something odd about the set-up:  An older Jewish man invites some young GIs back to his apartment for drinks, and one of them kills him because he's a Jew?  But when I looked up the book it was based on and discovered the character was a homosexual, it all made sense.  Too daring a topic for the movies back in those days.  Victim, with Dirk Bogarde, came out in 1961.  Don't know if that was the first film to explicitly deal with homosexuality.  Anyone?
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carvill John<johncarvill at hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Oct 28, 2011 7:48 AM
>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Subject: A visibly artful and oneiric film...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Foax
>>>
>>> NP, just a stumbled-upon reference. 'Crossfire' (1947) is described as a "visibly artful and oneiric film" here, the word rang a bell:
>>>
>>> http://www.noiroftheweek.com/2005/07/crossfire-1947-7112005.html
>>>
>>> Not been keeping up on the list much, the uselessness of the garbled digest edition sorta pushed me out.
>>>
>>> Any news?
>>>
>>> Word on the IV movie?
>>>
>>> Hope all (even my old nemeses) are well.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> JC
>>>
>>>
>>