A visibly artful and oneiric film...
jochen stremmel
jstremmel at gmail.com
Fri Oct 28 16:16:20 CDT 2011
(The first female-female kiss in the English speaking world was
perhaps in Morocco; directed and kissed by Europeans, however.)
J
2011/10/28 Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>:
> On 10/28/2011 2:26 PM, jochen stremmel wrote:
>>
>> "Anders als die Anderen" from 1919?
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>
> This was before talkies. It dared say its name only in titles.
>
> European movies were ahead of Anglo-America.
>
> In the English speaking world the first male-male kiss is reported to be in
> "Sunday, Bloody Sunday" in the early seventies. (kisses are important in
> the history of movies, aren't they)
>
> "Compulsion" (late 50s) treated homosexuality frankly but in a very non PC
> manner. Not "explicit" yet, I guess.
>
> Also, much earlier, there was "Rope" (late forties), also a based on the
> Leopold and Loeb case.
>
> Incidentally is anyone else reading Hollinghurst's The Stranger's Child,
> which deals very much with the effect of changing attitude toward same sex
> relations between Edwardian days and the present, most specifically the
> effect on literary biography. It has a Rupert Brooks like character.
>
> P.
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>
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>> 2011/10/28<kelber at mindspring.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi, Mr. Carvill - you've been missed. I actually saw this movie. There
>>> was something odd about the set-up: An older Jewish man invites some young
>>> GIs back to his apartment for drinks, and one of them kills him because he's
>>> a Jew? But when I looked up the book it was based on and discovered the
>>> character was a homosexual, it all made sense. Too daring a topic for the
>>> movies back in those days. Victim, with Dirk Bogarde, came out in 1961.
>>> Don't know if that was the first film to explicitly deal with
>>> homosexuality. Anyone?
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From: Carvill John<johncarvill at hotmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Oct 28, 2011 7:48 AM
>>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>>> Subject: A visibly artful and oneiric film...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Foax
>>>>
>>>> NP, just a stumbled-upon reference. 'Crossfire' (1947) is described as a
>>>> "visibly artful and oneiric film" here, the word rang a bell:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.noiroftheweek.com/2005/07/crossfire-1947-7112005.html
>>>>
>>>> Not been keeping up on the list much, the uselessness of the garbled
>>>> digest edition sorta pushed me out.
>>>>
>>>> Any news?
>>>>
>>>> Word on the IV movie?
>>>>
>>>> Hope all (even my old nemeses) are well.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> JC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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