NP, but Kubrick

[Mark Kohut]

Google book "Black humor" and you get this book by one MaxSchultz:
Black humor fiction of the sixties: 
a pluralistic definition of man and his world
 
A...and one gets Vonnegut, & V. and that anthology entitled Black Humor from 1965 
in which Esther's nose job (mag version) appeared......
And some other novels I liked, so somehow I gravitated to such.......
 
And in a snippet from Max's book he says it is an American [only] literature of the sixties
style...........
 
But what I would love to read ---or ravage thru----this book for is to see how he links it up
with 'a pluralistic definition of man and his world"........pluralism making me think of 
a non-either-or perspective.............
 
  
 
 
 
 
From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> 
Cc: Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: NP, but Kubrick


Paul M> wrote:
"Also we mustn't forget that a satirical variation of the 'how to' 
formula currently was on the boards in a hot musical--How to Succeed in 
Business Without Really Trying."
 
 
We need a linguistic historian----Calling David Crystal or Geoffrey Nunberg----
to see if this kind of phrasing was higher than it had been.
 
We DO know that "black humor" --as the books on Kubrick label his 
title,acccurately enough---was hot. and newly labeled....
 

From: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
To: pynchon-l at waste.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: NP, but Kubrick

On 4/4/2012 1:54 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
> A fascinating question, Monte, and I go with Paul's suggestion. In fact,
> my impressionistic memory of early bookselling days
> in the late sixties in Pittsburgh was that this Carngie book outsold the
> Friends one.....but carries no weight, I know..
> (decades later when I learned something about the publishing of these
> books, I was alittle self-surprised that Friends
> launched the series, for example, since I half-thought that it must have
> stoarted with Worry.....)
> Some fun searching in Google Books for that subtitle and partials---such
> as "learning to love"---
> NOT in the Andrew Carnegie book, it seems, or "learning to love the
> bomb"----elicits no citations
> before the movie subtitle---[but not conclusive, of course, since not
> much then that might prove otherwise]
> is in Google Books or books that later noted the earlier use.......maybe
> need the search that includes newspapers?...........
> Lotsa stuff about how The Bomb was in the culture at the time...
> Going to Strangelove and Kubrick.....we can learn that Kubrick's working
> draft titles had nothing like that......as
> the script got worked over by first him, then Terry Southern and Nelson
> George..........
> Pauline Kael in a much later piece about Kubrick made this point saying
> we had always assumed the subtitle was satiric
> but maybe Kubrick did love the machinery of war.....etc......
> I vote out of the air that the satiric subtitle came from Terry
> Southern........
> (but of course if he picked up the pharase from the culture then Monte's
> question now just applies to him.)

Also we mustn't forget that a satirical variation of the 'how to' 
formula currently was on the boards in a hot musical--How to Succeed in 
Business Without Really Trying.

P
>
> *From:* Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
> *To:* pynchon-l at waste.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:41 PM
> *Subject:* Re: NP, but Kubrick
>
> On 4/3/2012 12:01 PM, Monte Davis wrote:
>  > Speaking of K:
>  > It's my hazy recollection that the string "How I learned to stop worrying
>  > and love [x]" already had some currency before its appearance as
> sub/alter
>  > title to Dr. Strangelove. It's always had the flavor of parody, verbal
>  > sendup, but the original is 100% subsumed by now. Was it echoing the
> title
>  > of a memoir, a self-help book? Or am I making this up? Au secours,
> Boomers
>  > and wannabes!
>
>
>
> How to Stop Worrying and Start Living--Dale Carnegie
>
> P
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>  > MD
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