NP, but Kubrick

[Paul Mackin]

On 4/4/2012 4:40 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
> Paul M> wrote:
> "Also we mustn't forget that a satirical variation of the 'how to'
> formula currently was on the boards in a hot musical--How to Succeed in
> Business Without Really Trying."
> We need a linguistic historian----Calling David Crystal or Geoffrey
> Nunberg----
> to see if this kind of phrasing was higher than it had been.
> We DO know that "black humor" --as the books on Kubrick label his
> title,acccurately enough---was hot. and newly labeled....



The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed Up 
Zombies (1963)
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> *From:* Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
> *To:* pynchon-l at waste.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 4, 2012 3:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: NP, but Kubrick
>
> On 4/4/2012 1:54 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>  > A fascinating question, Monte, and I go with Paul's suggestion. In fact,
>  > my impressionistic memory of early bookselling days
>  > in the late sixties in Pittsburgh was that this Carngie book outsold the
>  > Friends one.....but carries no weight, I know..
>  > (decades later when I learned something about the publishing of these
>  > books, I was alittle self-surprised that Friends
>  > launched the series, for example, since I half-thought that it must have
>  > stoarted with Worry.....)
>  > Some fun searching in Google Books for that subtitle and partials---such
>  > as "learning to love"---
>  > NOT in the Andrew Carnegie book, it seems, or "learning to love the
>  > bomb"----elicits no citations
>  > before the movie subtitle---[but not conclusive, of course, since not
>  > much then that might prove otherwise]
>  > is in Google Books or books that later noted the earlier use.......maybe
>  > need the search that includes newspapers?...........
>  > Lotsa stuff about how The Bomb was in the culture at the time...
>  > Going to Strangelove and Kubrick.....we can learn that Kubrick's working
>  > draft titles had nothing like that......as
>  > the script got worked over by first him, then Terry Southern and Nelson
>  > George..........
>  > Pauline Kael in a much later piece about Kubrick made this point saying
>  > we had always assumed the subtitle was satiric
>  > but maybe Kubrick did love the machinery of war.....etc......
>  > I vote out of the air that the satiric subtitle came from Terry
>  > Southern........
>  > (but of course if he picked up the pharase from the culture then Monte's
>  > question now just applies to him.)
>
> Also we mustn't forget that a satirical variation of the 'how to'
> formula currently was on the boards in a hot musical--How to Succeed in
> Business Without Really Trying.
>
> P
>  >
>  > *From:* Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net
> <mailto:mackin.paul at verizon.net>>
>  > *To:* pynchon-l at waste.org <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>
>  > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:41 PM
>  > *Subject:* Re: NP, but Kubrick
>  >
>  > On 4/3/2012 12:01 PM, Monte Davis wrote:
>  > > Speaking of K:
>  > > It's my hazy recollection that the string "How I learned to stop
> worrying
>  > > and love [x]" already had some currency before its appearance as
>  > sub/alter
>  > > title to Dr. Strangelove. It's always had the flavor of parody, verbal
>  > > sendup, but the original is 100% subsumed by now. Was it echoing the
>  > title
>  > > of a memoir, a self-help book? Or am I making this up? Au secours,
>  > Boomers
>  > > and wannabes!
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > How to Stop Worrying and Start Living--Dale Carnegie
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>  > > MD
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