Nedd Ludd's Privileged Professionals

[Bekah]

Capitalism has always been based in part on using the cheapest labor available.  The elites may want to buy hand-made things but those who simply need some clothes or a car or a computer or whatever look to buy the cheapest -  so too the manufacturers of said goods from slaves and immigrants,  to illegal immigrants,  to Japanese labor to Chinese and Indian labor -  it really doesn't matter.  For the majority of consumers and manufacturers it's always about the cheapest - and it's a cycle. 

Bekah

On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Joseph Navarro wrote:

> Perhaps we can agree that the elite "artisan" status that the Luddites protested against losing, would certainly do our current American economic hierarchy a lot of good.  The economic divide between those who have a B.A. or more advanced and those who have merely a H.S. diploma or G.E.D., is becoming irrelevant.  The salary earner is going the way of the wage earner, as the intrinsic benefits that government and private corporations traditionally maintained for their citizens and workers, are now being removed.  Maybe the rise of the Luddite was a sign of times to come; the beginning of the current global economic Praxis in which a majority of the worlds wealth is consolidated into 1% of the worlds population.
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> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:21 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> history is nuance, it the mere-playthings of kings, corporations, churches, artists, anarchists, and cooperatives
> i believe in her only and shit on all her suitors
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> rich
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> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Yes,  the Luddites were artisans and craftsmen (with various levels of skill)  who were actually displaced.  They were not the lowest class of worker who, being capable of working the machines,  displaced them.
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> Bekah
> Books will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no books.
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> On Apr 12, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Mark Kohut wrote:
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> > A distinction without a difference, as philosophy profs used to say which I
> > repeat confidently,  lacking any historical knowlege of the situation....
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> > From: rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> > To: "“pynchon-l at waste.org“" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:56 AM
> > Subject: Nedd Ludd's Privileged Professionals
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> > http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/rage-against-the-machine/
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> > 'Now a study by Richard Jones, a research student at the University of Cambridge, suggests that Luddism may be celebrated for the wrong reasons. He argues that it was not a movement which represented the concerns of the working classes at all – rather those of privileged professionals with disparate, local concerns. In a British textile industry that employed a million people, the movement’s numbers never rose above a couple of thousand.
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> > “For historians, the Luddites have traditionally been seen as a phenomenon of social history,” Jones said. “They are viewed as workers dispossessed by economic advances, frozen out of existing structures and doing whatever they could to make their voices heard. But these were not downtrodden working class labourers – the Luddites were elite craftspeople.”
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> > Jones believes that this smallness of scale reflects the fact that Luddism was far from a genuinely pan-working class movement. Instead, Luddites were skilled workers – a relatively “elite” group, whose role had traditionally been protected by legislation regulating the supply and conduct of labour.
> > This centuries-old body of laws had also laid down rules for access to certain professional roles, such as the “croppers”, or cloth dressers, who led the rebellion in Yorkshire. These skilled workers had to spend seven years in apprenticeships before they could take up their chosen profession. At the end of it, they tended to feel that they were owed a living.
> > New machinery in the textile sector was starting to deny them this. For the real working classes, however, that was an old story – many unskilled jobs had long-since been displaced by technological advances and there was little reason for these groups to get involved in an uprising in 1811/12.'
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