Is the uncertainty principle culturally deranging?

[Prashant Kumar]

The Derrida reference was Paul's: Derrida's famous rag "there is nothing
outside the text". I brought up Borges because of his short story *Pierre
Menard, Author of the Quixote, *which I like to read as a counter-point to
D's assertion.

As for interaction free measurements, the short answer is that they allow
you to deduce information by having, say, a photon go down two paths
simultaneously, then recombine. So you are measuring "two" things at once;
your one thing is "bilocated", to use the Pynchonian. I guess the salient
point here is that in QM notions of identity, position, momentum and the
like do not map well to classical intuitions. Though they do reduce to
classical notions in the limit of many interacting particles and high
energy (that is, room temperature). One can develop "quantum" intuitions,
but such are hard to communicate. In the case of IFM, I can't offhand give
you an intuitive (non-mathsy) explanation for why Heisenberg's hand is in
the pie. It's an interesting problem though. I'll have to think about it.

P.

On 3 August 2012 01:36, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Prashant, are the interaction free measurements subject to the HUP because
> they only measure one thing at a time, allowing for a change of state
> between measurements, or is there more to it?
>
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> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Prashant Kumar <
> siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is that Sergio de la Pava? I'm reading his *A Naked Singularity* at the
>> moment. Excellent, but I can see why the major houses bounced him a couple
>> of dozen times.
>>
>> P.
>>
>> On 3 August 2012 01:28, Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I don't, yeah, I mean if that's the case.  I think of it as, printing
>>> out your manuscript in the form of a book, replicating it numerous times,
>>> then buying it for people and sending it to them, probably without them
>>> asking for it first.
>>>
>>> There's some fellow out of Chicago who got picked up by some big real
>>> house with a giant contract because of his own book though, so maybe that's
>>> what happens.  Publish it yourself, send it out, then get published?  I
>>> guess as opposed to just emailing it to people.  You get to make your own
>>> cover.  Which might be cool, I don't know, having a book you wrote in book
>>> format with your own designs, inside and out.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Prashant Kumar <
>>> siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Isn't it the literary equivalent of masturbating in public?
>>>>
>>>> P.
>>>>
>>>> On 3 August 2012 00:16, Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've not looked into self-publishing.  That's what AuthorHouse is
>>>>> isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>> It says it's free, what's the problem there.  I mean, how does one go
>>>>> wrong with self-publishing, how can that ever go wrong?  You take your
>>>>> manuscript to a printer, basically, or is there more to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> De range hand say: DO NOT EVER PUBLISH WITH AUTHORHOUSE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   *From:* Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *To:* Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>>>>>> *Cc:* pynchon-l at waste.org
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2012 4:33 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Is the uncertainty principle culturally deranging?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh der*anging*.  Mr. Kohut is certainly *that*.  I would never use
>>>>>> that word though, or any deranged derivative there, hem, of.  If I did it
>>>>>> would be in the best sense possible, which for me would be exceedingly
>>>>>> *good*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody write here?  I just got an email, who knows why I'm on
>>>>>> their list, I haven't tried to publish anything in years, from a place
>>>>>> called AuthorHouse, subject says Publish today and get a no-cost bump-up.
>>>>>>  So I guess it's free, today, if you want to get published.  I'm currently
>>>>>> stuck on page 400 hell with no end in sight.  432.  What is it about 400?
>>>>>>  The Moon is 400 times smaller than the Sun and 400 times closer to it than
>>>>>> the Earth, or something.  Bumping-up, m
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 8/1/2012 10:23 AM, Prashant Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but not pejoratively so I hope
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 August 2012 23:52, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1976/oct/28/plastic-fiction-3/
>>>>>>
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