NP - Romney/Ryan

[jochen stremmel]

Now I got it.

2012/8/14 Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>:
> What Americans enjoy the most is a hearty parade. Does this include things
> that are patriotic?  Absolutely.  What practitioners of a marching band need
> to keep in mind in their joyful parading is that they are singing the
> praises of good old fashioned American common sense.  That parades can be
> marched in circles but are not is tantamount to not persuade the lucrative
> capitalist interests to never advertising to an audience that prefers to
> observes things in a linear, or as Lincoln preferred, horizontal fashion.
> The energy and zest of holiday cheer, especially in the wakes of big
> colorful floats, and in the wakes of big bloody wars, full of the grandest
> shock and awe, and floats in the shape of the magnificent men who make
> America run, bankers, floats made by loyal and happy and hardworking
> American bank employers for those American bankers, all marching toward one
> infinite goal: American pragmatism and hegemony.  Americans know who the
> bosses are, they are the capitalist visionaries of tomorrow, and the
> soldiers who are willing to kill for the bank accounts of those visionaries.
> And I vote for them and grade them all with a blowjob and a smile.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:06 AM, alice wellintown
> <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Americans have only one philosophy: pragmatism. A candidate for the
>> presidency needs to promise what he or she can never deliver or risk
>> not being elected. Americans know this and even the young idealists
>> are tempered by their unavoidable relations with the ordinay joe or
>> jane on the job, so promises and dreams are things americans make but
>> never keep because the work must get done and the work is rather
>> mundane, slow, arduous, and requires courage and compromise (JFK).
>> does that work include war? Yes. Americans accept that the dirty job
>> of war must get done and that presidents must be willing to spill
>> blood. That the wars are messy and for the most part a waste of life
>> and resources is a given that most americans are, pragmatically
>> willing to abide; that Obama promised less arrogance, more diplomacy,
>> a better way of killing people in Pakistan & C0., the closing of Gitmo
>> etc.,  was a minor part of what got him elected and few will turn away
>> from him on these issues alone. H Clinton would have been more
>> agressive as her ambitious campaign of killing has proved. the economy
>> will save Obama, as it is performing much better than expected and
>> will only improve. Obama has done well. I give him a B. Of course, I
>> give Ben most of the credit for saving us from a Depression so
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:40 AM, jochen stremmel <jstremmel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I didn't mean who would I vote for as an U.S. citizen. That's no
>> > question for me. And yes, only fools could be disappointed by Romney.
>> >
>> > But didn't Obama promise to end the war in A.? Didn't he promise to
>> > put an end to G.? Or was I dreaming? And if he did why didn't he
>> > follow through? Only asking.
>> >
>> > 2012/8/13 Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>:
>> >> Um. I don't like either candidate, it's just that Romney / Ryan is just
>> >> very
>> >> much worse than Obama / Biden. I'll vote for Obama again, and hope he
>> >> does
>> >> better in his second term. I got the reality thing handled. Thanks for
>> >> the
>> >> advice, Rich.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Think u have to be realistic here. Any vote against Obama now with mr
>> >>> Ryan
>> >>> on the ticket is a very dangerous game. Obama with a 2nd term will do
>> >>> better. I think he's slowly learning.
>> >>>
>> >>> Rich
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 13, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> ... it's precisely a sea change (among other things) I'm hoping (as
>> >>> should the residents of, say, New Orleans, Venice, Shanghai, The
>> >>> Netherlands, et al.) to ward off ...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Just so. And that's a part of why I don't like either  candidate.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Dave Monroe
>> >>> <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Ian Livingston
>> >>>> <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Sure hope so. I still don't like either candidate. It takes someone
>> >>>> > like
>> >>>> > Romney to make Obama look really good. We need a sea change, not a
>> >>>> > finger in
>> >>>> > the dike.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>> >>> creeds
>> >>> the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
>> >>> reason
>> >>> is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
>> >>> groping for
>> >>> the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest urchin
>> >>> in the
>> >>> streets." -- Will Durant
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>> >> creeds
>> >> the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
>> >> reason
>> >> is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
>> >> groping for
>> >> the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest urchin in
>> >> the
>> >> streets." -- Will Durant
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