NP - It's not the video games

[Charles Albert]

Yes and no...The share prices are probably just a function of a temporary
demand supply imbalance......firearms sales are very strong. A friend who
works for a specialty shop which supplies barrels to manufacturers like
SIG/SAUER reports that business is booming. Their clients are the Imelda
Marcoses of Metal.


love,
cfa

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:40 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/more-companies-pull-out-of-gun-investments-121912
>
> *Following the announcement* by Cerberus<http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-backlash-prompts-gun-investment-overhaul-032547862--sector.html>,
> the capital management firm that said yesterday that it was getting out of
> the firearms business, it appears that the notion of divestment is starting
> to catch on around the country.
>
> The $150.1 billion New York State Common Retirement Fund is reviewing its
> investments in firearm manufacturers, a spokesman for New York State
> Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli said on Tuesday. New York City's pension funds
> are also reviewing investments and may sell nearly $18 million worth of
> stock in four companies that manufacture guns and ammunition, a spokesman
> said on Tuesday.
>
> The city's $128 billion pension funds hold nearly $14 million worth of
> shares in ammunition maker Olin Corp, $1.7 million in gun maker Smith &
> Wesson Holding Corp, $2.4 million in gun maker Sturm Ruger & Co Inc and
> $17,866 worth of stock in Brazilian gun maker Forjas Taurus SA. Shares of
> Smith & Wesson fell nearly 10 percent, shares of Sturm Roger fell 7.7
> percent, shares of Forjas Taurus fell 3.8 percent and shares of Olin fell
> 2.1 percent on Tuesday.
>
> If you're wondering why the NRA is extending what Joe Scarborough called
> "the olive branch" this time, there's your reason. That's the real thing
> that's changed since the massacre in Connecticut. There is a fundamental
> reaction against the people who profit from mass slaughter, and the dots
> are being connected in ways they haven't been previously. The NRA is the
> lobbying arm of the armaments industry, and those guys are starting to lose
> money by the fistful, and they can see more of this happening, so, I
> guarantee you, we're going to be hearing about the "many causes" of gun
> violence on Friday. The NRA will suddenly become an advocate for lavish
> funding of the nation's mental-health system. These clowns didn't grow a
> conscience over the weekend. Their sugar daddies are losing money, and
> that's all that ever has mattered.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> More to this specific point, she's using the unavoidable "nothing you can
>> do about it" presence of evil as an excuse for inaction on gun control.
>>   There's no reason to consider why they kill so many more people in the
>> United States than in other wealthy industrialized nations. Not a question
>> worth asking! Maybe we're just that much more evil as a nation!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> This, of course, presumes the basic dichotomy of good and evil. I, along
>>> with a number of other folks, consider that a false dichotomy and assume,
>>> rather, a multi-valent, many-leveled description involving stages of
>>> development in an array of psychological lines. What we call evil can be
>>> pathological development in the moral line, or some other crippling
>>> pathology. That said, "evil" provides a quick shorthand for individuals
>>> incapable of certain developmental requisites to socialization.
>>>
>>> That sounds kind of egg-headed, but I can't think of a better way to
>>> phrase it off the cuff.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> North Carolina Rep. Virginia Foxx:
>>>>
>>>> “There are just evil people in the world and nothing you are going to
>>>> do is going to prevent evil sometimes from occurring."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Atlas Shrugged
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Ian Livingston <
>>>>> igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tale of Two Cities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Turner Diaries
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Catcher in the Rye.  Communist
>>>>>>> Manifesto.
>>>>>>> > Das Kapital.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Yours truly,
>>>>>>> > ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
>>>>>>> > Henry Musikar, CISSP
>>>>>>> > http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>>>>>>> > <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Which books do you have in mind?
>>>>>>> >> The Bible? Blood Meridian? American Psycho?
>>>>>>> >> Just curious.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 18.12.2012 19:46, Henry M wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Just as the correlation of booze to hard drugs is greater than
>>>>>>> pot to hard
>>>>>>> >> drugs, it appears to me that books are more likely to lead to gun
>>>>>>> murders
>>>>>>> >> than are video games.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Yours truly,
>>>>>>> >> ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
>>>>>>> >> Henry Musikar, CISSP
>>>>>>> >> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:53 PM, David Morris <
>>>>>>> fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/17/ten-country-comparison-suggests-theres-little-or-no-link-between-video-games-and-gun-murders/
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> But it turns out that the data just doesn’t support this [video
>>>>>>> game]
>>>>>>> >>> connection. Looking at the world’s 10 largest video game markets
>>>>>>> yields no
>>>>>>> >>> evident, statistical correlation between video game consumption
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> >>> gun-related killings.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> It’s true that Americans spend billions of dollars on video
>>>>>>> games every
>>>>>>> >>> year and that the United States has the highest firearm murder
>>>>>>> rate in the
>>>>>>> >>> developed world. But other countries where video games are
>>>>>>> popular have much
>>>>>>> >>> lower firearm-related murder rates. In fact, countries where
>>>>>>> video game
>>>>>>> >>> consumption is highest tend to be some of the safest countries
>>>>>>> in the world,
>>>>>>> >>> likely a product of the fact that developed or rich countries,
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> >>> consumers can afford expensive games, have on average much less
>>>>>>> violent
>>>>>>> >>> crime...
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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